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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post


    Speaking of "hacking," did you purposely misconstrue what I said?. . .

    It's not a mistake to confuse two thoughts as one, because the sentence contained only one thought, and not the second one you read into it.
    Yes, to prove my point, which is your hypocrisy in doing the same to Obama.

    How did I misconstrue you, exactly? What you said is, technically, incorrect. The sentence you wrote contained only one thought. You expect me to read into yours what you meant, but if I read into Obama's what he, as a constitutional scholar, most definitely meant, I am being ridiculous? You can't have it both ways.

    Now if you want me to behave as an honest human being, I would understand your quote to mean something like "it wasn't a gaffe like Romney's, because it wasn't a statement that only became offensive because it was taken out of context." But apparently you don't want me to behave as an honest human being.
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It appears to me that 90% of the letter did not discuss the President's remarks at all, and only at the end did he address was the 5th Circuit requested.
    Nope. He gave a general summary of judicial review, which wasn't even the question. The court knows full well the history of judicial review.
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Yes, to prove my point, which is your hypocrisy in doing the same to Obama.

    How did I misconstrue you, exactly? What you said is, technically, incorrect. The sentence you wrote contained only one thought. You expect me to read into yours what you meant, but if I read into Obama's what he, as a constitutional scholar, most definitely meant, I am being ridiculous? You can't have it both ways.
    Siiiigh. My patience for immaturity and dishonesty is pretty low today, but I'll see what I can do.

    You said it was a mistake to confuse two separate thoughts in the sentence. I said it isn't a "mistake," because there's only one thought in the sentence.

    Then, you claimed I was saying . . . . well, I'm not even sure WHAT you claimed I was saying -- that Obama didn't make a mistake? That a "spoken sentence" couldn't be a mistake? I don't even know, because it makes absolutely no sense. Whatever it was, it had no resemblence to that which I actually DID say.
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Siiiigh. My patience for immaturity and dishonesty is pretty low today, but I'll see what I can do.
    Makes two of us.

    You said it was a mistake to confuse two separate thoughts in the sentence. I said it isn't a "mistake," because there's only one thought in the sentence.
    So now you're saying it is not a mistake when someone accidentally confuses two thoughts in a single sentence so that it comes off as a single thought?

    A mistake is any action that is unintentional. If you want to argue that Obama intended to combine the two thoughts, be my guest. I find that ridiculous.

    Then, you claimed I was saying . . . . well, I'm not even sure WHAT you claimed I was saying -- that Obama didn't make a mistake? That a "spoken sentence" couldn't be a mistake? I don't even know, because it makes absolutely no sense. Whatever it was, it had no resemblence to that which I actually DID say.
    You've tried so hard to distinguish what Obama did from a simple mistake that it has indeed become confusing, I agree.
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Makes two of us.

    You've tried so hard to distinguish what Obama did from a simple mistake that it has indeed become confusing, I agree.
    Uh, no, you claimed it was other people who were making the "mistake." But they were not making the mistake YOU said they were. THAT'S what I said.

    If I'm doing anything, it's "distinguishing" reality from your attempts to spin Obama's statement away from BEING a mistake at all.
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Uh, no, you claimed it was other people who were making the "mistake." But they were not making the mistake YOU said they were. THAT'S what I said.
    Lol, I don't know what you are talking about here.

    You erroneously combined two thoughts.

    You said "It's not a mistake, because it's what he said."

    Thoughts were (1) it's not a mistake (because it was intentional; Obama knew what he was saying and meant it), and (2) it's what he said. Both legitimate points to make. But when you combined them together, it made an untrue sentence, implying that because Obama spoke the words, they can't be a mistake. That is obviously not true.

    It literally is the exact type of error Obama made. But please, continue to dig yourself in a hole...

    Or submit to me a three page, single-spaced paper on whether you think spoken sentences can never be mistakes. Thanks in advance. :P
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Lol, I don't know what you are talking about here.

    You erroneously combined two thoughts.

    You said "It's not a mistake, because it's what he said."

    Thoughts were (1) it's not a mistake (because it was intentional; Obama knew what he was saying and meant it), and (2) it's what he said. Both legitimate points to make. But when you combined them together, it made an untrue sentence, implying that because Obama spoke the words, they can't be a mistake. That is obviously not true.

    It literally is the exact type of error Obama made. But please, continue to dig yourself in a hole...

    Or submit to me a three page, single-spaced paper on whether you think spoken sentences can never be mistakes. Thanks in advance. :P
    OK, dude. I've explained what I said in simple terms several times now, and you're still claiming I said something I didn't, while quoting that very simple explanation.

    So, you either don't understand plain English with little more than a third-grade level vocabulary, or you're being deliberately dishonest.

    I really don't care which, but I'm not wasting another second on it. Blather away about whatever you want.
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Nope. He gave a general summary of judicial review, which wasn't even the question. The court knows full well the history of judicial review.
    Of course they do, which is why Holder's reply to them is so hilarious. That judge should have known what he was doing when he gave that order to the administration, which had nothing at all to do with the case that the order came from. Holder was merely instructing the judge, in a very hilarious way, to abide by legal precedent which the judge should have already known was set in stone. Was it a slap in the face by Holder? Absolutely. Or, better yet, let's call it a legal Soupy Sales letter with egg instead of a pie that Holder threw in his face. LMAO.
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Of course they do, which is why Holder's reply to them is so hilarious. That judge should have known what he was doing when he gave that order to the administration, which had nothing at all to do with the case that the order came from. Holder was merely instructing the judge, in a very hilarious way, to abide by legal precedent which the judge should have already known was set in stone. Was it a slap in the face by Holder? Absolutely. LMAO.
    Oddly enough, that wasn't the question the judge asked.
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