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Thread: A Planned Parenthood Clinic In Wisconsin Was BOMBED Last Night

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    Re: A Planned Parenthood Clinic In Wisconsin Was BOMBED Last Night

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    And i guess im sorry for answering the question based on past bombing and crimes that happen to PP.
    Hard to think of another individual organization that has fallen victim to so much violence.

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    Re: A Planned Parenthood Clinic In Wisconsin Was BOMBED Last Night

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    IT all depends on which violence you're attuned to viewing / believing as well as your definition of "right wing" and "left wing".
    Well, the most active in terms of violence right-wing extremists are the violent anti-abortion movement and the racist white power groups. I just can't really think of any other groups that would be on the left-spectrum that even begin to have a comparable body count. Even going back to the 60's, the Weatherman seem to be the last extremist leftist group to really have multiple murders. The ELF/ALF hasn't killed anybody. I dunno, who else is there on the far-left that can really compare? Do you know of anybody?

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    Re: A Planned Parenthood Clinic In Wisconsin Was BOMBED Last Night

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is why we have police and stuff, to find stuff like this out. I will wait for them before rushing to judgement.
    As if the list of suspects is all that long.
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    Re: A Planned Parenthood Clinic In Wisconsin Was BOMBED Last Night

    Bombers are a odd bunch, the explosive device ones are mixed on people's death or injury and when no one is present. Not every deadly bombing was meant to be fatal. I don't think you can easily say much about who made this bomb by the absence of 'soft targets' in the blast area. The size points to amateur, too small to do much damage, size does matter in blast type weapons.

    A trend is detectable between the attackers, be it bomb, firearm or vehicle and strong religious beliefs joined with strong promotion of anti-abortion activities in the area. As far as I can find, and please lets have some others do some checking, there has not been one instance of pro-abortion supporters killing, bombing or burning a clinic.

    My thought on that is the women coming to such a clinic are scared/nervous enough as it is, ANY show of force will deter women from using the clinic so it does seem counterproductive to create more fear and tension if you side with a woman's right to choose.

    It will be interesting to see how this shakes out, I didn't vote in the poll.

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    Re: A Planned Parenthood Clinic In Wisconsin Was BOMBED Last Night

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Well, the most active in terms of violence right-wing extremists are the violent anti-abortion movement and the racist white power groups. I just can't really think of any other groups that would be on the left-spectrum that even begin to have a comparable body count. Even going back to the 60's, the Weatherman seem to be the last extremist leftist group to really have multiple murders. The ELF/ALF hasn't killed anybody. I dunno, who else is there on the far-left that can really compare? Do you know of anybody?
    From the 1970's:

    United Freedom Front
    M19CO
    Don't forget the BLA (Black Liberation Army)
    Black Panthers, New Black Panther Party (modern variant)

    Recent organizaitons? Very few like the Animal Liberation Front / Earth Liberation Front tend to be firebugs. Most tend to be invdividuals on both sides of the violence. Example: James Von Brunn.


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    Re: A Planned Parenthood Clinic In Wisconsin Was BOMBED Last Night

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Recent organizaitons? Very few like the Animal Liberation Front / Earth Liberation Front tend to be firebugs. Most tend to be invdividuals on both sides of the violence. Example: James Von Brunn.

    http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/left.pdf
    James Von Brunn was a right wing white supremacist.
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    Re: A Planned Parenthood Clinic In Wisconsin Was BOMBED Last Night

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    From the 1970's:

    United Freedom Front
    M19CO
    Don't forget the BLA (Black Liberation Army)
    Black Panthers, New Black Panther Party (modern variant)

    Recent organizaitons? Very few like the Animal Liberation Front / Earth Liberation Front tend to be firebugs. Most tend to be invdividuals on both sides of the violence. Example: James Von Brunn.


    http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/left.pdf
    James Brunn was a white supremacist, Holocaust denier and a birther. I don't think that exactly falls on the left.

    It's the political scientist in me that sees left and right violence differently. Historically, the Left has been more group orientated while the Right tends to be more lone wolf-type violence. Most Leftist violence has been Marxist inspired (M19CO, Weathermen, UFF) and typically manifests itself as bombings to destroy systems, not people. The context is violence against an oppressive minority on a majority. As far as I've read, most Leftist revolutionaries in the US tend to avoid trying to kill people, and instead rely on the symbolism as the message (such as the Senate bombings).

    Extreme right-wing violence, on the other hand, does tend to target actual people. This kind of extremism is usually based in some sort of tribalism, whether it's race or religion or other like-mindedness. Targets of right-wing violence have historically been minorities or some form and the ideals tend to be of preferences for certain groups over others. I would argue that here are more murders on this extreme because of the common worldviews held by many of these groups. It simply allows or encourages for more violence against others than the typical extreme Left position.

    Both are equally negative, but if we're getting into the details, that's my analysis.
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    Re: A Planned Parenthood Clinic In Wisconsin Was BOMBED Last Night

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    James Von Brunn was a right wing white supremacist.
    You are correct - Von Brunn was a white supremacist and a holocaust denier, but there's serious doubt as to his right wing ties. He seemed to hate left and right both.

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    Re: A Planned Parenthood Clinic In Wisconsin Was BOMBED Last Night

    Doesn't matter who it was arrest the domestic terrorist and throw away the key!
    If they killed people give them the death penalty.

    What is ironic is "IF" this was a person against abortion it makes no sense because the likely hood is that their were more people there not getting or giving abortions than anything else and probably even children there, so those would have been the people to get hurt or killed.
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    Re: A Planned Parenthood Clinic In Wisconsin Was BOMBED Last Night

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You are correct - Von Brunn was a white supremacist and a holocaust denier, but there's serious doubt as to his right wing ties. He seemed to hate left and right both.

    Weekly Standard may have been shooter target - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
    Sorry... wha? Lol.... no. There isn't any doubt. You're creating it cause you got caught making **** up.
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