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    Re: Trayvon Martin controversy is spinning out of control

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Neil- that is a more propaganda that doesn't help the debate but rather fans the flames. Reminds me of angry old men who sit around and find crap to complain about. You invite counter crap using fat old white dudes carrying racist posters and frothing over violence to 'take the country back' at Tea Party rallies and taking over town hall meetings.

    Maggie- I totally agree, Zimmerman violated almost all the neighborhood watch rules but it appears he wasn't 'on duty' when he noticed and followed Trayvon.

    Ockham- I don't believe we needed this to show us our nation still has a strong racially bitter undertone. I see it a lot on political posters.
    "Fat old white dudes." Nothing to see here folks. Just another bigoted racist.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin controversy is spinning out of control

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I believe you need to face reality if you actually believe Republicans are innocent....
    You also need to face reality on how a 2 party political system works...
    You're confused, dear. We aren't speaking about republicans here. We are speaking about the Trayvon Martin con game going on right before your naive innocent eyes.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin controversy is spinning out of control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You seem to be the only one claiming Republicans are innocent here.
    Not really read back: "Face reality. It's part of growing up."


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    Re: Trayvon Martin controversy is spinning out of control

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I so totally agree. I hate this sort of political posturing even back when idiots dressed up like the Founders and carried blood of tyrant posters, screamed about taking their country back or stirred the pot with 'death panels'. It is sad to say it seems to be the way Congress operates.

    The debate is getting very hot, but one thing I see as helping fan this is Zimmerman wasn't held after fatally shooting a teenager HE pursued. I can't help but think if a black man had shoot a white kid, or white on white the shooter would have been held 72 hours and been subjected to some rather intense questioning. Zimmerman never was piss tested, it is as if most the police believed Zimmerman's account without much question.

    If there wasn't a heated public outcry I doubt this shooting would get a second thought by the vast majority of America because it would be easy to write it off as poor 'white' guy attacked by thugger black teen and the teen got what he deserved.

    A civil debate would be better but there wouldn't be any debate if the outcry wasn't so strong.
    I actually think that releasing Zimmerman at the time was appropriate.

    On first blush his story was plausible and he is connected enough to the community to not be a high flight risk. I'm sure he got at least a "don't leave town" kind of admonishment.

    I think the PD/prosecutor may have taken his word a little too easy. No real rush to identify Martin, cops wanted to charge him, etc.

    Someone did make a good point about limited resources being a relevant factor, though.
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    Re: Trayvon Martin controversy is spinning out of control

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    You're confused, dear. We aren't speaking about republicans here. We are speaking about the Trayvon Martin con game going on right before your naive innocent eyes.
    And the democrats are sick right? And the republicans are innocent right?


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    Re: Trayvon Martin controversy is spinning out of control

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    And the democrats are sick right? And the republicans are innocent right?
    Yes, your party is very sick. Your pals in big cities like Chicago, St. Louis, New Orleans, etc, have failed. Big city gangs and crime are murdering children every day and all you can do is blame republicans. Time to face reality and grow up. This is beyong party politics. We have serious problems and deflecting isn't going to solve them. This entire circus is one big deflection for a failed administration and leftist policies.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin controversy is spinning out of control

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    You're confused, dear. We aren't speaking about republicans here. We are speaking about the Trayvon Martin con game going on right before your naive innocent eyes.
    I said early on that the public relations guys are going to be hard at work on this case.

    There are several competing agendas here. Both sides of gun control, "race", and SYG laws.

    Public opinion is manipulated/managed through the use of persuasion science.

    The pictures of them from years ago that show an innocent looking kid and a creepy looking guy are aperfect example of this. They may have been what was available at the time, but their continued use was certainly intentional.

    And as I predicted, Martins life has been gone over with a fine toothed comb, and some "skeletons" have emerged.

    The same is being done with Zimmerman.

    Sifting through the chaff created by PR professionals for the grains of objective "truth" gets more difficult as time passes and the manufactured narratives gain more traction due to the "illusion of truth" effect created through simple repetition, especially repetition from apparently unrelated sources.
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    Re: Trayvon Martin controversy is spinning out of control

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Mr Zimmerman is being tried and convicted in the media and now in congress. WTF
    Every congressional member that's involved with that visit should be expelled from Congress permanently and lose their benefit, for interferring with the execution of a police investigation. This guy couldn't get a fair jury trial (if it came to that) if he wanted to now. And I mean expelled and frog-marched out of the Capital.
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    Re: Trayvon Martin controversy is spinning out of control

    Looks like the "Do The Right Thing" big city dweeb has now done the right thing.......finally.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin controversy is spinning out of control

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    Yes, your party is very sick.
    Really not "my party" sense im not registered as a democrat... But oh well

    Your pals in big cities like Chicago, St. Louis, New Orleans, etc, have failed.
    My pals?

    Big city gangs and crime are murdering children every day
    This is politicians faults because they control this how???
    What policies?

    and all you can do is blame republicans.
    I blamed republicans on this issue where??

    Time to face reality and grow up.
    Coming from the guy that complains about uses and threatens to relase PMs on threads.. And makes threads for only that issue...

    This is beyong party politics.
    This whole response is about party politics! You just made this party politics! You centered your whole argument around parties literally 2 sentences earlier!

    We have serious problems and deflecting isn't going to solve them. This entire circus is one big deflection for a failed administration and leftist policies.

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