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    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    I've read the background. The fact is that the products you're now objecting to is not being sold as dog food - it's perfectly legitimate for human consumption. You calling it dog food is a deliberate lie to make is sound less appetising and less safe that it actually is. I'm not ignorant or emotional enough to fall for that rubbish so, in conversation with me at least, you might as well stop wasting your time.

    who's lying now? If you "read the background" as you claim you would see it was first used in dog food. The company in question found a way to make it accetable for human consumption.

    Safe? Well that's all relative isn't it? Given that we see reports each and every day on this or that proccessed food additive leading to myriad of health problems. "safe" isn't a word I would use....


    acceptable? Sure, safe in moderation, maybe, but i'll leave the poison to your ilk, if I can't kill it, grow it, gather it. Or make it from what I grow kill or gather, i don't eat it.





    When you find one, you can talk to them then. For now you're stuck with me.
    read up chumley, who decided to make it personal an emotional? That was you chief. (you, "you)

    I said you can eat all the dog food you want. I simply do not care. (that's a you, "you")


    Just don't add this fake procceced crap to my meat and pretend you are selling me ground chuck. You're not, your sellin me a meat filled with amoniad beef by products.

    (that's a general "you", in case you get your irish up)


    I didn't call you irrational. I said that you've failed to make a rational argument for your distinction of what is "real" food.
    you: "food is anything the fda says it is, process the hell out of it, inject it with chemicles, its food"

    The Good Reverend: "food is what one can grow, kill, and gather, and what you can make with these things, i don't consider artifical products and over procced garbage "food"".

    You; "yer irrational"....


    Uhm ok.


    You're in discussion with me though and I've repeatedly stated that I'm in favour of better labelling. This isn't a relevant aspect to our discussion (maybe you're too "enraged with emotion" to keep track ).

    you don't know me very well, I can assure you good sir, The Good Reverend is rarely "enraged"....

    I am glad however, that you support labeling the dog food you eat, when the try to hide it in my ground beef.

    That clearly isn't all you hate. You appear to hate the existence of the product at all. I can understand not wanting to eat it on the ick factor alone and I can understand wanting to be able to choose fresh, unprocessed food (at least as an option) but I can't see the rational in condemning it as "dog food", "crap" and "not food" without any form of structured technical backing.

    how many times do I have to say that you can eat all the dog food you want before you get that while hating a product, i fully support its existance and your right to shove it down your gullet.

    What I don't support is deceptive business practices trying to hide it from people who eat better than you (that was a you, you )


    Depending on the concentration and form, probably the acid but that's completely irrelevant to the processes we're talking about.
    not really, how much bleach do you like in your food?
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    Re: ‘Pink Slime’ Maker Cuts Back Production. Is That a Good Thing?

    research shows that ALL red meat is bad for you, thereby making this whole thread look kinda silly.

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    Re: ‘Pink Slime’ Maker Cuts Back Production. Is That a Good Thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    research shows that ALL red meat is bad for you, thereby making this whole thread look kinda silly.


    Actually it is not, it is how you eat red meat and what you eat it with. but thanks for your contribution.
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    Re: ‘Pink Slime’ Maker Cuts Back Production. Is That a Good Thing?

    My stance, pretty much from the beginning...

    - I have never once thought this stuff would necessarily harm anyone.

    - Having said that, it is not something that I want in my food, and I feel intentionally deceived.

    - I am fine with it continuing to be in ground beef, but... feel that it should be required to be listed on the label. There was a bitchy lady from one of the plants that makes it on the local news a few days ago, and she said, "It's beef, What do you want me to put on the label?". Ok, yes, technically it is beef, but, it's also been put through a unique process. Plus, you're industry has also given it a specific name... "lean finely textured beef"... use that. If it needs a separate name, it should be listed separately. Period.
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    Re: ‘Pink Slime’ Maker Cuts Back Production. Is That a Good Thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    who's lying now? If you "read the background" as you claim you would see it was first used in dog food. The company in question found a way to make it accetable for human consumption.
    It was used as dog food but then prime stake has been used as dog food too. That doesn't make it legitimate to call it all dog food any more than it would be legitimate to say the same of all prime stake.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Safe? Well that's all relative isn't it?
    Yes, safe relative to all our other food products, including the "real" food you prefer.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Sure, safe in moderation, maybe, but i'll leave the poison to your ilk
    You see, this is where I have a problem with your rhetoric. You can't agree that it is relatively safe and then go on to call it "poison". It's bordering on the libellous.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I said you can eat all the dog food you want. I simply do not care. (that's a you, "you")
    I don't care about the "pink slime" either, I care about honest debate, misleading rhetoric and outright lies.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    you: "food is anything the fda says it is, process the hell out of it, inject it with chemicles, its food"
    Speaking of outright lies... I never gave a definition of food so you've just made this up and put it in my mouth (a little ironic ).

    Food is anything animals consume and digest to create chemical energy. There is a vast range of things that are food but I have absolutely zero desire or physical ability to eat but my personal tastes and metabolism doesn't alter the definition of the word.

    We can choose to define subsets or "good", "bad", "healthy" or "unhealthy" food, as many people have, but it’s all within the wider definition of food.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    You; "yer irrational"....
    Yet another lie. I explicitly said I wasn't calling you irrational, only that you'd yet to make a rational argument on a specific point.

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    I am glad however, that you support labelling the dog food you eat, when the try to hide it in my ground beef.
    Good. We're not discussing what I eat or even what you eat though. We're discussing what you're posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    not really, how much bleach do you like in your food?
    None. Ammonia isn't a bleach. There are plenty of scary sounding or even actually dangerous substances in all sorts of foods, including natural ones. They are just in minimal amounts or in forms that do not pose a risk. Alcohol is an obvious example.

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    Re: ‘Pink Slime’ Maker Cuts Back Production. Is That a Good Thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    It was used as dog food but then prime stake has been used as dog food too. That doesn't make it legitimate to call it all dog food any more than it would be legitimate to say the same of all prime stake.
    Link to your claim that prime "stake" [sic] has been used in commercial dog food. fact is this products origional use was in the pet food industry, why you deny this is beyond me. It's dog food. Enjoy.,



    Yes, safe relative to all our other food products, including the "real" food you prefer.

    Bull****, we hear reports of finding out that the proccessed foods you shove down your gullet leads to x,y,z... people who eat a natural diet, tend not to have these issues.



    You see, this is where I have a problem with your rhetoric. You can't agree that it is relatively safe and then go on to call it "poison". It's bordering on the libellous.

    I think most processed food you eat is poison.....


    Food can be a great medicine, or a slow poison. choose wisely.

    I don't care about the "pink slime" either, I care about honest debate, misleading rhetoric and outright lies.
    ironic.....



    Speaking of outright lies... I never gave a definition of food so you've just made this up and put it in my mouth (a little ironic ).

    oh so now you are suggesting that pink slime is not food? I agree.




    Food is anything animals consume and digest to create chemical energy. There is a vast range of things that are food but I have absolutely zero desire or physical ability to eat but my personal tastes and metabolism doesn't alter the definition of the word.

    Food can either be the best medicine or a slow poison, choose wisely, I don't consider the poison you consume, "food".




    We can choose to define subsets or "good", "bad", "healthy" or "unhealthy" food, as many people have, but it’s all within the wider definition of food.
    You can once again, eat all the dog food you want, I don't care. but if someone asks me, I am more than happy to tell them as I you, that I do not consider it food, well, maybe dog food.



    Yet another lie. I explicitly said I wasn't calling you irrational, only that you'd yet to make a rational argument on a specific point.

    hysterics......




    Good. We're not discussing what I eat or even what you eat though. We're discussing what you're posting.

    yes, we are discussing dog food sold fraudulently to consumers, that you get overly emotional in defending.



    None. Ammonia isn't a bleach. There are plenty of scary sounding or even actually dangerous substances in all sorts of foods, including natural ones. They are just in minimal amounts or in forms that do not pose a risk. Alcohol is an obvious example.
    Tyson, perdue, bleach your chicken. as do many of the big food brands.....


    I'll stick to goffle poultry farm, or murrays, or bell and evans, they seem to be able to get me unbleached chicken.... Again, you can put small amounts of poison in your body all you want, I care not. I want to know which "foods" have these things so I can make the educated and more sound choice for me and my family.
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    Re: ‘Pink Slime’ Maker Cuts Back Production. Is That a Good Thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Actually it is not, it is how you eat red meat and what you eat it with. but thanks for your contribution.
    you know that's a lie.

    red meat is bad for your regardless of how you eat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    you know that's a lie.

    red meat is bad for your regardless of how you eat it.


    Ok man, The Good Reverend is slim, fit and rich, at 39, has no issue eating a 2lb prime ny strip in a sitting, and has very very low cholesterol levels..... You who doesn't eat right, shouldn't be lecturing others on what is healthy and what is not. How about another tv dinner?
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    Re: ‘Pink Slime’ Maker Cuts Back Production. Is That a Good Thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Link to your claim that prime "stake" [sic] has been used in commercial dog food.
    I never said commercial - my grandma bought steak to feed to her dog. That doesn't instantly make all steak dog food. Equally, though "pink slime" was originally sold as to be used in dog food, that doesn't make all "pink slime" today dog food.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    fact is this products origional use was in the pet food industry, why you deny this is beyond me.
    Given that there first words in my quote were "It was used as dog food..." I'm not clear what I'm meant to have been denying.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I think most processed food you eat is poison.....
    This still isn't about what I eat. You know nothing about my diet.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Food can be a great medicine, or a slow poison. choose wisely.
    True to an extent. "Pink slime" doesn't seem to be either though (more than any other low grade red meat at least).

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    oh so now you are suggesting that pink slime is not food?
    How did you get that interpretation!?! I consider "pink slime" to have been food when it was being used in dog food. Whether I wish to eat it or not doesn't change that fundamental fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    hysterics......
    No, a calm and reasoned statement of fact. I am confused as to why you feel the need to lie so obviously though. Any insights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Tyson, perdue, bleach your chicken. as do many of the big food brands.....
    My chicken? How are they getting over the fence?

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    Re: ‘Pink Slime’ Maker Cuts Back Production. Is That a Good Thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    I never said commercial - my grandma bought steak to feed to her dog. That doesn't instantly make all steak dog food. Equally, though "pink slime" was originally sold as to be used in dog food, that doesn't make all "pink slime" today dog food.

    then your point was an incoherent irrelevant mess.

    yes, pint slime, is indeed dog food, Bon apetito!


    This still isn't about what I eat. You know nothing about my diet.
    By your defense, I can take an educated guess.



    True to an extent. "Pink slime" doesn't seem to be either though (more than any other low grade red meat at least).

    "doesn't seem".... well it's blasted with ammonia, has less nutrition than jello, The Good Reverend will hedge his bets.



    How did you get that interpretation!?! I consider "pink slime" to have been food when it was being used in dog food. Whether I wish to eat it or not doesn't change that fundamental fact.

    Obviously., my standard of what "food" constitutes, is far more selective and desirable than yours.



    No, a calm and reasoned statement of fact. I am confused as to why you feel the need to lie so obviously though. Any insights?

    u mad, bro?




    My chicken? How are they getting over the fence?


    shoddy work ethic?
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