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    Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter

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    "George is a congenial, amiable, admirable person,Ē he said. "He had a passion and a care for this neighborhood to ensure the safety of everybody here. And, furthermore, George is no Rambo."

    Taaffe said that Zimmerman was appointed as a watch captain, despite reports that he appointed himself to the post.
    I did a search about Zimmerman being tried in the media and did not really come up with much. There was a nice article in an Australian publications, but other than that I only found a couple mentions, including Geraldo's claim that the hoddie caused Trayvon's death.

    This happens in high profile cases and it is a shame that race has become an issue. If this goes to trial how can Zimmerman get a pool of an unbiased jury? I am not saying that I think what he did was right, he said Trayvon looked "suspicious" what does that mean? What about the dispatcher telling him they did not need him to follow the suspect -- the dispatcher should have said "do not follow the suspect" -- if of course they are allowed to say that. I do not think Zimmerman should have gave chase. What I am disturbed about is that no one is sticking up for him, the media has destroyed him for what may be a mistake. We were not there, we are only assuming what happened. Are we being fair?

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    Re: Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter

    Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty and deserves the full rights granted to the accused. The problem is that despite considerable evidence suggesting murder, he hasn't even been arrested. Zimmerman deserves a fair trial, but there needs to be a trial in the first place.

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    Re: Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty and deserves the full rights granted to the accused. The problem is that despite considerable evidence suggesting murder, he hasn't even been arrested. Zimmerman deserves a fair trial, but there needs to be a trial in the first place.
    If he is found innocent, invariably riots or at least outrage will occur. He has little chance at a fair and impartial trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    If he is found innocent, invariably riots or at least outrage will occur. He has little chance at a fair and impartial trial.
    Yes. We have seen this before. I think it was 1989 in Florida, and we had the Rodney King incident in CA, so many others that were thankfully not on that scale. I understand people wanting to rise up and make a statement, but destroying things is not necessary. What really sucks about the riots is that people end up destroying their own neighborhoods. I have never understood that.

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    Re: Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    If he is found innocent, invariably riots or at least outrage will occur. He has little chance at a fair and impartial trial.
    You're right about that and what an utter shame. The police should have investigated it as a murder from the beginning.


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    Re: Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter

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    I did a search about Zimmerman being tried in the media and did not really come up with much. There was a nice article in an Australian publications, but other than that I only found a couple mentions, including Geraldo's claim that the hoddie caused Trayvon's death.

    This happens in high profile cases and it is a shame that race has become an issue. If this goes to trial how can Zimmerman get a pool of an unbiased jury? I am not saying that I think what he did was right, he said Trayvon looked "suspicious" what does that mean? What about the dispatcher telling him they did not need him to follow the suspect -- the dispatcher should have said "do not follow the suspect" -- if of course they are allowed to say that. I do not think Zimmerman should have gave chase. What I am disturbed about is that no one is sticking up for him, the media has destroyed him for what may be a mistake. We were not there, we are only assuming what happened. Are we being fair?
    Be certain that the public relations guys are digging for dirt on Martin and "gold" on Zimmerman.

    This is a high profile firearm self-defense case.

    The whole pro/anti-gun circus is in full swing.

    Which sucks, because it doesn't help. Its the kind of thing that the most stringent gun control measures WON'T prevent, short of an oitright ban on ownership.

    And that's never going to happen, so its just gonna make everybody fight and hate each other more. Making it harder to deal with the situation in a reasonable manner.
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    I thought this thread would attract more attention than it has. Is it because people have made up their minds already?

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter

    I don't quite see how he came to his defense. "A perfect storm was created . . . we've had a lot of break-ins by black kids" . . . that's a defense?
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    Re: Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
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    I did a search about Zimmerman being tried in the media and did not really come up with much. There was a nice article in an Australian publications, but other than that I only found a couple mentions, including Geraldo's claim that the hoddie caused Trayvon's death.

    This happens in high profile cases and it is a shame that race has become an issue. If this goes to trial how can Zimmerman get a pool of an unbiased jury? I am not saying that I think what he did was right, he said Trayvon looked "suspicious" what does that mean? What about the dispatcher telling him they did not need him to follow the suspect -- the dispatcher should have said "do not follow the suspect" -- if of course they are allowed to say that. I do not think Zimmerman should have gave chase. What I am disturbed about is that no one is sticking up for him, the media has destroyed him for what may be a mistake. We were not there, we are only assuming what happened. Are we being fair?
    Fair point. I think we can blame law enforcement for doing a cursory investigation and not wanting to release the 911 tapes. Further, it seems that "community watch" was Zimmerman's hobby. That's okay...BUT. The police department should have explicit guidelines for these people; and one of them should be, "Do not attempt to approach or apprehend a suspicious person. Call 911 and report!"

    Zimmerman was not a trained LEO; of that there is no doubt. He wasn't in any kind of uniform. Of that there can be no doubt. A situation he instigated that got out of hand would, in all likelihood not gotten out of hand if a LEO had done the exact same thing he did.

    It is unfortunate that he's being fed to the goats...but such is the result of the rather provocative hobby he engaged in.
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    Re: Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    U.S. News - Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter

    I did a search about Zimmerman being tried in the media and did not really come up with much. There was a nice article in an Australian publications, but other than that I only found a couple mentions, including Geraldo's claim that the hoddie caused Trayvon's death.

    This happens in high profile cases and it is a shame that race has become an issue. If this goes to trial how can Zimmerman get a pool of an unbiased jury? I am not saying that I think what he did was right, he said Trayvon looked "suspicious" what does that mean? What about the dispatcher telling him they did not need him to follow the suspect -- the dispatcher should have said "do not follow the suspect" -- if of course they are allowed to say that. I do not think Zimmerman should have gave chase. What I am disturbed about is that no one is sticking up for him, the media has destroyed him for what may be a mistake. We were not there, we are only assuming what happened. Are we being fair?
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