Geraldo Rivera: Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie Is As Much Responsible As Shooter

sawyerloggingon said:

A black guy called into Ed Shultz yesterday and said he doesn't let his sons dress like gang bangers. He told them if you dress like a gangster people will think you are a gangster, that was Geraldos point, not that the kid had it coming.

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If I see people who look like racist rednecks, do I get to kill them just in case? No? Well then **** Shultz, Geraldo and **** that retarded ass black guy who called in too.

Well you know you pissed a lot of people off by your words when even your own Son is ashamed of you..

Geraldo Rivera

Hatuey said:

Trayvon Martin is the Emmett Till of our generation. He is a black kid who was murdered for the SAME racial prejudices that got Till killed. He wasn't doing anything wrong. He didn't start any altercation. He didn't approach Zimmerman. It was the other way around. Anybody who even questions the innocense of Trayvon as an individual who had EVERY right to walk down the street without being approached by an asshole with a gun is either snorting coke or out of their racist ass little mind. What's worse is that people don't see this as a racial issue at all. Are people really this ****ing retarded? Okay, then the murders of whites in Congo weren't race related either. Let's just call them.... uh.... what's that word they're using on the media? Unfortunate events .

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Hyperbole!

Hatuey said:

If I see people who look like racist rednecks, do I get to kill them just in case? No? Well then **** Shultz, Geraldo and **** that retarded ass black guy who called in too.

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Apparently you do if they call the police on you. You can beat them to death. Or at least you say so.

Excon said:

Hyperbole!

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Maybe when you're relevant to this forum I'll take the time to care what you think?

joko104 said:

Apparently you do if they call the police on you. You can beat them to death. Or at least you say so.

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I'm not even sure what this is about?

jet57 said:

So then, women should dress in potaote sacks to avoid being raped . . .

A hoodie does not the criminal make. If this idiotic shooter wasn't a racist to begin with; which the audio clip clearly shows: "F***king C****", and had the idiotic shooter listened to police dispatch and waited for a car, then that young man would still be alive wouldn't he.

If we didn't have rapists in this world women wouldn't have to be afraid at all would they.

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If Martin had not engaged in felony aggravated assault against Zimmerman he'd still be alive.

Point to the statute that says the felony aggravated assault statute does not apply if the person called the police on you and watched where you went to tell the police when they arrive?

joko104 said:

If Martin had not engaged in felony aggravated assault against Zimmerman he'd still be alive.

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Making stuff up I see?

Hatuey said:

I'm not even sure what this is about?

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Of course you're not. Facts, eye witnesees just get in the way of your prejudice against Latinos, so you ignore all of it.

Or maybe you just don't want anyone calling the police on you and are trying your right to assault anyone who does?

Hatuey said:

Making stuff up I see?

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I am stating what the two eye witnesses (both African American) have said they saw.

joko104 said:

Of course you're not. Facts, eye witnesees just get in the way of your prejudice against Latinos, so you ignore all of it.

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Rofl. I'm married to a Cuban. Fail on your part? Oh I think so.

joko104 said:

I am stating what the two eye witnesses (both African American) have said they saw.

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PROOOOOOF. ANY? NONE? KK. thanks bay!

Goshin said:

Neighborhood Watch Shooting of Trayvon Martin: Probe Reveals 'Questionable Police Conduct' - ABC News

Eyewitness Zimmerman Martin shooting Incident - YouTube

Trayvon Martin was on top of Zimmerman punching him when he was shot.

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Perhaps you need to do more research.

Witness in Trayvon Martin murder fingers police - YouTube

Look I get it. A black teen shot is always justified right? I mean our lives are not valuable to you anyway. I bet if Trayvon was a dog, Zimmerman would be in jail right now. I am sadden by a lot of people defending this guy like he is some kind of victim. But lets look at the facts:

1) Zimmerman got out the car looking for trouble. Trayvon was minding his own business walking to his father's house who is by the way a resident in that community. It very ironic that Zimmerman gun down the one that he was suppose to protecting.

2) It wasn't racially motivated???? Just listen to his 911 call. He claims that these ***holes always get away it and you he called Trayvon a F**king coon. Yeah he was color blind :roll:

3) Okay lets say they were fighting. The eye witness saw the fight in progress, but who started the fight???? Was Trayvon defending himself from this wanna be cop who felt he had to harass this kid for being "a f**king coon".

But you know what, at the end of the day, a father is without a son, a mother is without a son, he will never graduate high school, he will never go to college, he will never get married, he will never have kids. And according to you it was justified....

Perhaps you need to ask yourself a question. What if Trayvon was your kid gun down by Zimmerman? Would you say it was justified? would you defend Zimmerman? What would you do? People want to say that this case is not about race. Really??? If he was a white kid with the same clothes on, would Zimmerman have followed him? Would that kid still be alive today?

Wiggen said:

Gee, would this be one of those deflections I keep hearing about when people are losing arguments and decide to change the subject?

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Pointing out your childish raging hypocrisy is not "changing the subject". You are a partisan hack with blinders on, Sorry you don't see it, All cable news is equally bad. CNN and that indian guy, is just plain boring, but msnbc, including your guy Al Sharpton, is just as bad as fox news. Stop being a sophomoric little cheerleader.

For a guy who never watches Faux News, you sure do defend them a lot. And deflect.

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And another lie, I've already told you I don't watch cable news. Apparently you struggle, FOX NEWS SUCKS, AS DOES MSNBC, partisan hacks like you? That apparently means I am a Fox fan.....


/facepalm

sawyerloggingon said:

A black guy called into Ed Shultz yesterday and said he doesn't let his sons dress like gang bangers. He told them if you dress like a gangster people will think you are a gangster, that was Geraldos point, not that the kid had it coming.

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The very first episode of "COPS" was in Newark, There was this cop talking about, how you see certain young black males dressed a certain way, you knew they were up to no good. He talked about how unfortunate it was, but it was the reality.


Anyone think the cop was racist?

Hatuey said:

Maybe when you're relevant to this forum I'll take the time to care what you think?

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As a member I am as relevant as you are.

But I understand.
A person who can not defend their position engages in dismissive behavior.
Dismissing someone out-of-hand is one of those actions.

But instead of engaging in dishonest hyperbole, you could show people just how relevant your position is by arguing it, but then again you will bring it right back to dismissal because you are unable to defend it, wont you?

I love how Joko goes from thread to thread claiming aggravated assault on Martin's part. Zimmerman had a bloody nose and a wound on the nack of his head that didn't require stitches. He didn't even see a doctor after this threatening life event that compelled him to shoot someone, since his own attorney can only claim that his nose was "probably" broken and his head wound "probably" needed stitches. All the witnesses who see Trayvon in a dominant position say he was standing over Zimmerman not kicking the **** out of him.

It's pretty sad that the living one is innocent until proven guilty whereas the dead one is guilty until proven innocent

Ben K. said:

I love how Joko goes from thread to thread claiming aggravated assault on Martin's part. Zimmerman had a bloody nose and a wound on the nack of his head that didn't require stitches. He didn't even see a doctor after this threatening life event that compelled him to shoot someone, since his own attorney can only claim that his nose was "probably" broken and his head wound "probably" needed stitches. All the witnesses who see Trayvon in a dominant position say he was standing over Zimmerman not kicking the **** out of him.

It's pretty sad that the living one is innocent until proven guilty whereas the dead one is guilty until proven innocent

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It might be best to wait until the dust settles, signing up for a side, is a bit premature at this point/.

ReverendHellh0und said:

The very first episode of "COPS" was in Newark, There was this cop talking about, how you see certain young black males dressed a certain way, you knew they were up to no good. He talked about how unfortunate it was, but it was the reality.


Anyone think the cop was racist?

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Cops and people in general usually say the same of people of any race. I'm pretty sure it involves more than wearing a hoodie with the hood up in the rain.

ReverendHellh0und said:

The very first episode of "COPS" was in Newark, There was this cop talking about, how you see certain young black males dressed a certain way, you knew they were up to no good. He talked about how unfortunate it was, but it was the reality.


Anyone think the cop was racist?

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Cops and people in general usually say the same of people of any race. I'm pretty sure it involves more than wearing a hoodie with the hood up in the rain.

rcart76 said:

But lets look at the facts:

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Yes. Let's review your facts

1) Zimmerman got out the car looking for trouble.
False. The fact is he was trying to keep a suspicious person under observation until the police arrived.
That is not looking for trouble.


2) It wasn't racially motivated????
An unconfirmed claim. Not fact.

He claims that these ***holes always get away it
You have no actual idea what he meant by that, only what you believe he meant.


and you he called Trayvon a F**king coon. Yeah he was color blind :roll:
An unconfirmed claim. Not fact.

3) Okay lets say they were fighting. The eye witness saw the fight in progress, but who started the fight???? Was Trayvon defending himself from this wanna be cop who felt he had to harass this kid for being "a f**king coon".
Besides being hyperbole and supposition - Not a fact.



But you know what, at the end of the day, a father is without a son, a mother is without a son, he will never graduate high school, he will never go to college, he will never get married, he will never have kids. And according to you it was justified....

Perhaps you need to ask yourself a question. What if Trayvon was your kid gun down by Zimmerman? Would you say it was justified? would you defend Zimmerman? What would you do? People want to say that this case is not about race. Really??? If he was a white kid with the same clothes on, would Zimmerman have followed him? Would that kid still be alive today?
Emotion has no bearing on guilt or innocence here.



Would that kid still be alive today?
If he had stayed out of Zimmerman's sights after he "lost" him or had not attacked or confronted him from behind - most likely.

In reality you have no "facts" to speak of.
Perhaps you should take your own advice and do some more research.

Excon said:

As a member I am as relevant as you are.

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No. You're as relevant as any other 3 day old newbie on this forum.

But I understand.

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You clearly don't. See, you're under the impression that all members are equal. This is not the case. There's a hierarchy. Your only purpose on this forum is to waste bandwidth. That's it. :shrug:

A person who can not defend their position engages in dismissive behavior.
Dismissing someone out-of-hand is one of those actions.

But instead of engaging in dishonest hyperbole, you could show people just how relevant your position is by arguing it, but then again you will bring it right back to dismissal because you are unable to defend it, wont you?

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Oh my! Are you pretending to be Captain Courtesy? The whole psychoanalyst shtick isn't really your thing. You get dismissed because you typed a 1 word as a respone to what I said. Not because I can't defend my possition. Come at me with something relevant then maybe I'll care? No? I didn't think so. K thanks bye. :2wave:

Top Cat said:

Geraldo is a Libertarian. He is anything buy liberal. He's far more aligned to your whack job party than anything else. And of course, he works for your favorite Kool Aid Stand. Fake News.

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Uh, yeah! Keep dreaming. Geraldo is a Libbo from waaaaaay back.

Excon said:

I like wearing hoodies.
I wouldn't say it is so much the wearing of a hoodie, but in how it is worn.

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He did a bad job of making a good point. The point he was making, is that young people--especially black teenagers--should think about the presentation that they're making when they're in public. Bascially, if they look like a thug, they're probably going to be viewed as a thug and will be treated like a thug.

apdst said:

He did a bad job of making a good point. The point he was making, is that young people--especially black teenagers--should think about the presentation that they're making when they're in public. Bascially, if they look like a thug, they're probably going to be viewed as a thug and will be treated like a thug.

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We do not execute people in this country because we do not like the way they dress.

Or at least we should not if we believe in the law.