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    Re: Geraldo Rivera: Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie Is As Much Responsible As Shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    such a statement is only possible, if you never read nor watch the news.
    If you can find just one news report that doesn't mention the fact that Trevor was black I would like to see it. His being black should not be the issue. The issue should be one man shot another man under questionable circumstances, race should not be a factor as it wasn't in the article I posted from Spokane.

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    Re: Geraldo Rivera: Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie Is As Much Responsible As Shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    If Martin had not engaged in felony aggravated assault against Zimmerman he'd still be alive.

    Point to the statute that says the felony aggravated assault statute does not apply if the person called the police on you and watched where you went to tell the police when they arrive?
    So, from where do you derive the proof that Travel Martin engaged in felony aggravated assault? The witness reports say that Mrtin was trying to get away!
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    Re: Geraldo Rivera: Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie Is As Much Responsible As Shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    If Martin had not engaged in self-defense against Zimmerman he'd still be alive....
    fixed that for ya.

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    Re: Geraldo Rivera: Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie Is As Much Responsible As Shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    We do not execute people in this country because we do not like the way they dress.

    Or at least we should not if we believe in the law.
    No, we don't and Martin wasn't executed. However, people see you as you are. If you look like a ghetto thug, then people are going to assume that you are.

    I bet you don't wear overalls, a dirty baseball cap and Redwing work boots to work. Do you? Why don't you? Because you'll look like some ignorant hick that can barely write his name, not the chief of staff for a state legislator. Appearance is everything in our society.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Geraldo Rivera: Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie Is As Much Responsible As Shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, we don't and Martin wasn't executed. However, people see you as you are. If you look like a ghetto thug, then people are going to assume that you are.....
    and now, Martin looked like a ghetto thug? I guess Zimmerman should have just shot him from the car huh?

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    Re: Geraldo Rivera: Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie Is As Much Responsible As Shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No. They shouldn't. They shouldn't think about presentation any more than white kids with mohawks or Latin kids with tattoos. They should be allowed to walk dressed however and wherever the **** they choose without fearing some dickhead will walk up to them with a gun. Clothing do not a criminal make and it's ridiculous prejudices like yours that are what got Trayvon killed to begin with.
    It just doesn't work like that, out here in the real world.

    If you see some white dude in overalls, dirty boots, foo-man-chu mustache, probably dipping snuff and a greasy baseball cap, you're going to automatically sterotype him as a racist redneck and treat him differently than you would someone else presenting themselves in a different way. And, please, don't insult our intelligence and say that you wouldn't, because we all know better.

    Everyone is prejudice. Libbos do more to keep prejudice and racism alive than any other group in this country.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Geraldo Rivera: Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie Is As Much Responsible As Shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and now, Martin looked like a ghetto thug? I guess Zimmerman should have just shot him from the car huh?
    Your words, not mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Geraldo Rivera: Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie Is As Much Responsible As Shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Your words, not mine.
    so you agree with my paraphrasing of your comment?

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    Re: Geraldo Rivera: Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie Is As Much Responsible As Shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    I'm not saying it is a hate crime, but it was definitely motives to go after the kid. He was caught on tape clearly sayng " they always get away". Who is they? I know what he means and I'm sure you knows what it means. I listen to the tape recording 20 times and he said coon. How all of the sudden cases like these are difficult? Thousand of men are in prison right now for the same thing that Zimmerman got to walk for.

    We can disagree all night but this is fact. If Zimmerman gets away with this, Florida is sending out a dangerous message . It is okay to kill another individual if you provoke the altercation and feel threaten. I can go to my neighbor right now, if I didn't like him, and pick a fight with him just to claim self defense and shoot him. THis is what it is all about. There is no way in hell Zimmerman would be free if this kid was a white kid. And you know that is fact.
    He was probably referring to crooks. Unless you're claiming that all crooks are black. Are you?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Geraldo Rivera: Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie Is As Much Responsible As Shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so you agree with my paraphrasing of your comment?
    No. I do not agree with the words that you tried to put into my mouth.

    I have plenty of my own words. There's no need for you to put more.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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