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    Re: CNN chastises Americans for complaining about gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    No there isnt. You have a choice on whether or not to purchase fuel for the set price. If you dont like the price its still as simple as not buying it. Or buy less of it.
    When we have an administration who's self-admitted aim is to increase the cost of oil to make their desired alternative energy more cost effective, the only people who lose are those of us to whom you make your suggestion: Buy less...or none.

    Our government shouldn't be putting its citizens in that position.
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    Re: CNN chastises Americans for complaining about gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    A study in contrasts.
    The best freedom money can buy. The same principle that outlaws price-gouging when taking advantage of a natural disaster should apply in normal times. Individuals not buying it is unrealistic and ineffective because only a large and organized boycott would change excessive profit-taking

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    Re: CNN chastises Americans for complaining about gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    The best freedom money can buy. The same principle that outlaws price-gouging when taking advantage of a natural disaster should apply in normal times. Individuals not buying it is unrealistic and ineffective because only a large and organized boycott would change excessive profit-taking
    Thats some serious G20 summit propaganda you have there. Real question: how do you intend to get an organized boycott for any length of time? Because I have my doubts such a thing is even remotely possible.

    The best solution on the table for oil right now is natural gas and its just as finite as oil. Electric is getting better but let the market decide, electric cars with subsidies of 10k are not market solutions. Batteries need to get orders of magnitude better at storage and capacity for electric to be viable on its own and less range limiting.

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    Re: CNN chastises Americans for complaining about gas prices

    Funny how there is always some explanation and statistic to show that...really...gosh...its just not that bad...you know...Gas prices...well...as a percentage of overall income...when compared to total cost of living, and raises...and a percentage of gross product...during the springtime...well...it COULD be a lot worse...like...its not like we are paying European prices...or...well...its not as bad as everyone thinks...or...its not the presidents fault after all....

    All we know for sure is that the gas prices are averaging around 4.50 and climbing. Debt has gone from 9 to 16 trillion. Unemployment stays above 8% (and that doesnt count all the people underemployed or no longer eligible for benefits). A whole lot of campaign contributors got green energy gifts and have since declared bankruptcy. Those states that were bailed out by 'jobs' money are still in debt and its climbing, right along with the federal debt.

    Wonder why people werent as benevolent when Bush was president.

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    Re: CNN chastises Americans for complaining about gas prices

    Gasoline is 12 cents a gallon in Venezuela. That's all it's worth. The have-nots have been had by the haves. Their position to control our minds expands into thinking processes. People are trained to think in the way they are told to think. Appeals to self-serving authorities are believed in because of our intimidated respect for authority.

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    Re: Rising gas prices aren't as bad as you think(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Well, thanks, CNN for yet another Barack Obama campaign ad disguised as journalism. Do you really think we're that stupid?
    Hahaha - nice catch. So when something's working against Obama we brush it aside as the amount of money people spend on "pets, toys, hobbies and playground equipment."

    I wonder how CNN would present the story if the Obama administration were trying to SAVE us a few dollars a week.

    Oh wait! No need to wonder at all. Apparently $12 a week is just money for fun and games, but $20 a week determines whether you can afford new shoes for your husband, whether you can afford your medication, an amount that means "everything" in this economy, a "magical amount", something that makes school lunches affordable, etc. etc.

    Of course to be "fair", they quote a few of those cold, uncaring, rich conservative-types as well:

    Payroll tax cut standoff's impact: What $40 a paycheck means to you
    So, with all of the bickering and the debating, we wanted to know if you agreed that $40 is a significant amount of money. We asked you if the end of the tax cut affect your family or if it would have little difference in your daily life. Here's what you said:

    Selena Campbell is a 21-year-old from Orlando, Florida, who works in Admissions Control at Full Sail University. She said that the money she may be losing each paycheck would help buy new shoes for her husband. He has to walk to work every day because they can't afford a second car. But Campbell said that isn't the only thing it would help out with.

    "For me and my family, $40 is $10 less than what we pay for groceries every week," she said. "There have been weeks, where we have only been able to spend $10 on groceries and have lived off of mac 'n' cheese and hot dogs."

    Selena Campbell said the lost money would have helped with grocery and medical costs.
    That money would also determine whether they could fully pay for their rent or car payments. It would also impact their healthcare, she said.

    "$40 is what it costs for my medication so I can be a healthy wife, sister, daughter, mother," Campbell said. "$40 a month, in the economy we are in right now, is everything."

    Tiffanie Young, a supervisor at a small rural hospital in Seaside, Oregon, says she saves $50 per paycheck for emergencies. The end to the payroll tax break would mean "I would probably have to stop doing that." She said that for a lot of people $40 could help pay for groceries, gas and other necessary bills.

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    Re: CNN chastises Americans for complaining about gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    The best freedom money can buy. The same principle that outlaws price-gouging when taking advantage of a natural disaster should apply in normal times. Individuals not buying it is unrealistic and ineffective because only a large and organized boycott would change excessive profit-taking
    Market prices =/= "price gouging." Not to mention that it's not up to you or anyone else to define "excessive."

    And profit margins for oil companies are in line with every other industry, anyway, and considerably less than many others.

    Oil Industry Profit Margin Ranks Fairly Low: There Are Bigger Fish - Seeking Alpha
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    Re: Rising gas prices aren't as bad as you think(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So our total personal cost for this increase in price is only a measly $12 per week.
    We had the White House having people say how $50 dollars less a month due to not extending the tax holiday would cause their children to go without food, their rent not be paid, or people not being able to afford food.

    However, $50 some odd dollars less a month due to increase fuel prices...No big deal.

    Once again, I ****ing hate people. Politicians and journalists are usually stupid but it gets so much worse during election season.

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    Re: CNN chastises Americans for complaining about gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    As with anything, if you don't like the price dont buy it.
    So you like the price?
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    Re: CNN chastises Americans for complaining about gas prices

    I think the conservatives are just upset because it cost them more to fill up the pickup trucks, the generator for the mobile home, the four wheeler and the engine that lights the outhouse...

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