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Occupy 6-Month Anniversary Protest Ends With Zuccotti Park Arrests

The Dragon said:
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I read your words the first time....

the mechanisms are differing from time to time.. the overall message is still the same... " gimme yo money!"

you spelled it out crystal clear that you believe the people who have didn't earn it and don't need it....you believe they possess their money because they have received it unethically and keep it to themselves out of shear spite of poor people.
of course, you won't feel the same way about the 99% who receives this money from the government for simply existing ( not trading labor or value for it).. nah, that's a totally ethical and correct way to build wealth.

i'm a 1%er myself... and to be quite honest...I agree with some of the concerns of the OWS movement ... but as I have been deemed the enemy by you OWS folks, you get absolutely no support or kind words from me.
I'll continue to give liberally to deserving charities and people... but those won't include anti-capitalist leftist protesters of the OWS sort, they can starve in the park for all i care.
 
cpgrad08 said:
After the seeing the crap that happen to the Occupy movement in Oakland, I have no respect for that movement what so ever.
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Because one group of people is just like any other group of people, right? :roll:
 
Catawba said:
Because one group of people is just like any other group of people, right? :roll:
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Because there wasn't been any violence with the other groups, right?:roll:
 
Fiddytree said:
Doesn't it seem odd that it would coincide with a time where university students across the country are close to their final exam/project week? What a fabulous time to not do anything.
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Since one of their main objectives is to get the youth in the streets protesting student loans and such, that's not surprising at all.
 
Thrilla said:
of course, you won't feel the same way about the 99% who receives this money from the government for simply existing ( not trading labor or value for it).
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:doh
Society. SOCIETY! Give it to SOCIETY.
A man who does no labor and expects reward is not society. I specifically said that the money would be put into the everyday American's wage.
Receiving money "from the government for simply existing ( not trading labor or value for it)" is precisely what we DON'T call a wage.
 
The Dragon said:
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Society. SOCIETY! Give it to SOCIETY.
A man who does no labor and expects reward is not society. I specifically said that the money would be put into the everyday American's wage.
Receiving money "from the government for simply existing ( not trading labor or value for it)" is precisely what we DON'T call a wage.
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Don't they already receive wages for their work? ??
 
The Dragon said:
They receive wages, yes. Does that mean that they make enough for a living? No.
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Then perhaps they should ....

1. Stick to a strict budget of only the essential items. Many people who can't pay their electricity bill weirdly have the money to spend on lottery tickets, internet access and going out to eat every weekend.
2. Get another job or a better-paying job.

If they truly ARE poor and really can't make ends meet at all (even after trying those two things), then there are numerous private charities and churches that will help them. People in America don't need to be forced to help people who are truly in need. We do it voluntarily at an overwhelming rate.
 
Josie said:
Since one of their main objectives is to get the youth in the streets protesting student loans and such, that's not surprising at all.
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It hurts getting one's degree or having a decent GPA, however. Which then impacts other areas of future employment.

So, I'll suggest it is quite ironic.
 
Josie said:
Then perhaps they should ....

1. Stick to a strict budget of only the essential items. Many people who can't pay their electricity bill weirdly have the money to spend on lottery tickets, internet access and going out to eat every weekend.
2. Get another job or a better-paying job.

If they truly ARE poor and really can't make ends meet at all (even after trying those two things), then there are numerous private charities and churches that will help them. People in America don't need to be forced to help people who are truly in need. We do it voluntarily at an overwhelming rate.
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1. For one, my thermostat is set at 65*F right now.
2. Getting a new job isn't exactly something that can be done overnight, genius.
3. For the last time. I SAID SOCIETY!
 
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The Dragon said:
1. For one, my thermostat is set at 65*F right now.
2. Getting a new job isn't exactly something that can be done overnight, genius.
3. For the last time. I SAID SOCIETY!
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1. Oooookay..... So is your scenario about you? Do you have a job?
2. Very true.
3. Yes, I know you said society. Society is people. (Soylent green is people!!!!)
 
Thrilla said:
I don't mind that you believe that....

good luck bringing down capitalism, comrade!
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I have no desire to bring down capitalism, and neither do a majority of the OWS protesters.

Most of the 99% just want a fair chance at working towards success that was provided in this country for the decades of the strongest middle class in history before financial deregulation and supply side economics.
 
Catawba said:
I have no desire to bring down capitalism, and neither do a majority of the OWS protesters.

Most of the 99% just want a fair chance at working towards success that was provided in this country for the decades of the strongest middle class in history before financial deregulation and supply side economics.
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Does it bother you that the many Occupy leaders do want to bring down capitalism?
 
The Dragon said:
:doh
Society. SOCIETY! Give it to SOCIETY.
A man who does no labor and expects reward is not society. I specifically said that the money would be put into the everyday American's wage.
Receiving money "from the government for simply existing ( not trading labor or value for it)" is precisely what we DON'T call a wage.
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" give it to society" is a meaningless phrase...
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Nope its not over yet. Not even close. This movement is just gearing up again. When spring comes back around i think something big will happen. The movement is planning a spring awakening.
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Lol, we've heard the socialist losers saying that line for decades now. The Revolution is always just around the corner. What a larf.

OWS is toast. They had fifteen of brief media attention and they blew it. They've nothing of note except get arrested and annoy the living bejeezus out of the businesses around them. They have no power, no real support and the only people paying attention to them are the police.

Who gives a tinkers cuss about OWS anymore?
 
Josie said:
Don't they already receive wages for their work? ??
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Almost half the country doesn't make a living wage, that is why they are unwilling to be continually bitten by the same financial deregulation/supply side economy dog that has been biting their ass for the last 30 years, while more and more of labor's wealth has been redistributed to those at the top.
 
Josie said:
1. Oooookay..... So is your scenario about you? Do you have a job?
2. Very true.
3. Yes, I know you said society. Society is people. (Soylent green is people!!!!)
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1. Yes, I do. High School. My wage is 0$ an hour. I would like a raise, but I somehow doubt that'll be happening.
2. ...
3. Giving money to people, and giving back to society aren't the same thing, you know.
Give back to society, and people obtain the money in their wages. You do know why we have taxes, right? It's the cost of being an American. Higher taxes are the cost of being a wealthy American. If you don't like it, then you can always switch to being a regular American.
 
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Josie said:
Does it bother you that the many Occupy leaders do want to bring down capitalism?
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There are no Occupy leaders, and the majority of Occupy protesters across the nation do not want to bring down capitalism. They are just tired of being urinated on by those taking more and more of labor's wealth.
 
The Dragon said:
Give back to society, and people obtain the money in their wages. You do know why we have taxes, right? It's the cost of being an American. Higher taxes are the cost of being a wealthy American. If you don't like it, then you can always switch to being a regular American.
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Unfortunately, the money goes to society through Congress, which is a real s***show if you haven't noticed! :)
 
The Dragon said:
1. Yes, I do. High School. My wage is 0$ an hour. I would like a raise, but apparently they can barely afford to pay me what they have.
2. ...
3. Giving money to people, and giving back to society aren't the same thing, you know.
Give back to society, and people obtain the money in their wages. You do know why we have taxes, right? It's the cost of being an American. Higher taxes are the cost of being a wealthy American. If you don't like it, then you can always switch to being a regular American.
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I started working in high school. I saved money to pay for my own car, clothing, etc. Are you planning on getting a job sometime soon?

Okay, your #3 didn't make much sense.
 
Catawba said:
There are no Occupy leaders, and the majority of Occupy protesters across the nation do not want to bring down capitalism. They are just tired of being urinated on by those taking more and more of labor's wealth.
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Yes, there are Occupy leaders. They organize the protests, start and run the websites, write for the Occupy Wall Street Journal, speak on panels about the Occupy movement, etc. I agree with you that the majority of OWS protesters don't want to eliminate capitalism. But the people with the real microphones do.
 
Catawba said:
"Rick Hampton for USA Today said the vast majority of occupy members have been nonviolent."
Occupy movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why is Occupy Tucson nonviolent? Protesters, police credit each other

Occupy protesters disavow Oakland violence
It 'has to be nonviolent, or else it will just end. We won't get the support,' protester says
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I anticipated the non-violent argument when I posted this in post #53

May Day | #OWS Direct Action In these meetings we abide by the following community agreements:

1. Our solidarity will be based on respect for a diversity of tactics and the plans of other groups
2. We will create adequate space and/or time between separate actions to maximize personal choice, safety, and autonomy
3. Any debates or criticisms will stay internal to the movement, avoiding any public or media denunciations of fellow activists or events
4. We agree not to assist law enforcement actions against activists and others
Please check the calendar at Calendar | OWS Open Atrium for regularly updated information on meeting locations.
Remember comrades, the revolution must be organized. [...] PROPOSAL:

Morning: disruptive action around midtown (where financial firms have headqarters)

Noon: rally/march with May 1st coalition at Union Sq

Evening rush hour: disruptive action
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#1 is referring to the Black bloc tactic. As noted by the proposal of disruptive action to be carried out on May 1st. Notice that none of the 4 points said non-violence. #2 allows for there to be a safe distance between tactics being employed. Why would they even need to say that?
 
Thanks for the list of demands, it sows how clueless OWS really is

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