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    Re: Occupy 6-Month Anniversary Protest Ends With Zuccotti Park Arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    Or maybe perhaps it's because footage of flag burning anarchists from OWS do exist.
    No **** they admit. But taking the actions of a few and generalizing about a whole group is pretty idiotic. Would you agree?


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    Re: Occupy 6-Month Anniversary Protest Ends With Zuccotti Park Arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    From what I understand, the red pill is good.


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    Re: Occupy 6-Month Anniversary Protest Ends With Zuccotti Park Arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Actually it was a propaganda campaign to unite industrial workers with agricultural workers not peasants.
    Ag workers were considered peasants back in the day..

    It is common knowledge that the hammer and cycle is a symbol that represents Communism not socialism. Nice try though.
    Uhhh its really not...


    Even an idiot like beck would be able to see that a red star and the hammer and cycle were on the soviet flag.
    I'm not denying that.

    Are you trying to tell us that you were not as smart as Glenn Beck when choosing to place them side by side in your signature?
    No im saying your crazy



    Nazi? bwahaha.
    Just using your kind of reasoning

    Oh and you are correct the red star on the soviet flag in for unity.
    Good job Jimmy, youre so smart!


    You should try harder with your insults like maybe something not so overdone and predictable.
    You sure do sound like Glenn.



    Your claim of Rightwingers is icing on the cake.
    Have you been to any of their protests? I have. Seen many libetarian Ron Paul supporters there, and anarcho-capitalists...

    You still have not provided us any proof of real people in the occupy movement that are Right wingers.
    Go to a protest....

    But you did post a few bumper stickers, but anyone could have put those there right? lol.
    Yea im sure they just put them there...
    Go to a protest...



    Yea a fist what are you blind or something?
    Whats your problem with it?



    Yes 99% Commies use the hammer and cycle. The other 1% are idiots that have no clue that 99% of the world knows that the hammer and cycle is an COmmunist symbol. Thats a big C not a wimpy little one.
    Cool... The OWS used a hammer and sickle?
    I thought they used a fist?


    Yea that will help your assertions . Really it will. lol
    Cool. LOL



    Sorry but I do not take pills nor am I bugs bunny but thanx for asking.


    BTW I thought that I would entertain your notion that Rightists are involved in OWS and in effect in your assertion giving ows a legit status. SO I googled it.

    ANd you are right and it turns out that they are Nazis. SO I must give you credit where credit is due. You were right and I was wrong. But OWS still is not legit and even less so now knowing that OWS is not only full of commies but also nazis.
    If OWS is not legit then why do you hate it so much?


    Now that Zog is on your side you will finally be heard. viva ows aye? Now I understand the anti jew signs at all of the ows shows.
    So let me get this straight OWS is a Commie, Socialist, Nazi movement? Wow quite a great idea!


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    Re: Occupy 6-Month Anniversary Protest Ends With Zuccotti Park Arrests

    Heard on the local news this morning one of the fine upstanding "occupiers" tweeted he allowed as how a cop should be killed to show they mean business, I guess. Now it seems he's getting death threat tweets in return. And guess what? He doesn't like it. What a whiner.
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    Re: Occupy 6-Month Anniversary Protest Ends With Zuccotti Park Arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The demand for lower heating oil prices was for their local government, and without knowing more about what they mean, I would agree it doesn't make much sense on the surface.

    None of the national demands are anti-capitalistic. Progressive taxation has been held to be constitutional under the rule of law in this country for at least the last 100 years.
    No one said anything about constitutionality. Capitalism is the accumulation of capital. Progressive taxation seeks to limit capital, thus progressive taxation is anti-capitalism. When you add things like capital gains and estate taxes, its even more obvious.

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    Re: Occupy 6-Month Anniversary Protest Ends With Zuccotti Park Arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    No one said anything about constitutionality. Capitalism is the accumulation of capital. Progressive taxation seeks to limit capital, thus progressive taxation is anti-capitalism. When you add things like capital gains and estate taxes, its even more obvious.
    If you believe that progressive taxation is anti-capitalist. And we know the tax rates proposed are less progressive than they were in the 50's and 60's, then all you are saying is the OWS are as anti-capitalist as were our parents in the 50's and 60's. Thanks for sharing where you are coming from with your view.
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    Re: Occupy 6-Month Anniversary Protest Ends With Zuccotti Park Arrests

    Goddamn, not this again...
    Face it, OWS is over. The media hype it used to feed on is over. The "revolution" never was realized. It's amazing how hardcore supporters and hacks are so delusional
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    Re: Occupy 6-Month Anniversary Protest Ends With Zuccotti Park Arrests

    You wanna protest then put some sting into it with your guns like the Arab Spring.

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    Re: Occupy 6-Month Anniversary Protest Ends With Zuccotti Park Arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    No im saying your crazy
    Just using your kind of reasoning
    Good job Jimmy, youre so smart!
    You sure do sound like Glenn.
    If OWS is not legit then why do you hate it so much?

    When we take your points and narrow them down we can see just what you are trying to do here.

    Telling me that I am crazy and equating me to glenn beck is an attempt to discredit me instead of my assertions. And trying to imply that I am stupid is more of the same ad hominem attack. Which means that you have nothing. Now on top of that ad hominem you added a propagandist line that is going around in the Leftist crowds. The idea is to get a debater to admit that they "hate" ows. After that small admission is acquired you comeback with (or just leave it implied) that the ows 'haters' hate ows because they are trying to make the 1% unaccountable. Thus making the 'hater' either a 1%'er or a useful idiot of the 1%. The idea is to marginalize and mark anyone opposed to the Leftist movement as the enemy.

    You may have nothing to add, but I do.

    In Marxist theory the bourgeoisie is portrayed as exploiting the proletariat. Meaning that the working class are being exploited by the Capitalist class. Now lets apply that concept to the occupy movement. "The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%." This is the main concept of the occupy movement. What they have done is change proletariat to 99% and bourgeoisie to 1%. So lets see how that sounds now.

    "The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The proletariat that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the bourgeoisie." Bourgeoisie as defined by Marxism means the Capitalist class. And the proletariat meaning the working class that works for the bourgeoisie class. Marxism is designed to turn the proletariat (99%) against the bourgeoisie (1%) so that the first phase can be accomplished. That first phase is to topple Capitalism by turning the workers (who represent the largest portion of an industrial countries population. Which basic group manipulation. The idea is to get a group to blame a small section of that group for everything wrong in the world. The group is first told that everyone is equal and deserves to have what everyone else has. Then the group is told that certain individuals have more than their share. The group then acts as an collective to get their share out of the individuals that were greedy. In this group mentality the concept of personal liberty does not exist. Everyone must share their wealth or the group will take it away. By creating a society that exists as an collective Marx removed what he reasoned was the largest threat to his philosophy of socialism, the individual.

    Hence why the occupy movement is leaderless. The idea is for the protesters to act as a group in order to take back their share from the individuals within the group that have more. There cannot be a leader in a Marxist movement. Which brings me back to the hammer and sickle and a star. You did not go any further with those symbols because you realized where I was going. I kept relating those symbols with the Soviet flag in order to get you to tell me what those symbols stand for. So you tried to just say that they stand for Socialism. In part you were correct. But then you tried to move us away from the point showing that you did not want to go any further knowing where i was going.
    The hammer and sickle and red star together are the symbol for Marxism. SO when you are talking about Socialism you are really talking about Marxism. And Marxism defines socialism as a stage before communism. So an Marxist movement aims to take over a nation that is not Marxist by design of its Constitution.

    Now are you going to debate these facts or continue with your attempts to marginalize me? Do you really have anything to add to this conversation?
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    Re: Occupy 6-Month Anniversary Protest Ends With Zuccotti Park Arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If you believe that progressive taxation is anti-capitalist. And we know the tax rates proposed are less progressive than they were in the 50's and 60's, then all you are saying is the OWS are as anti-capitalist as were our parents in the 50's and 60's. Thanks for sharing where you are coming from with your view.
    No need to be a jerk about it. But I agree, supporters of progressive taxation are willfully ignorant of their anti-capitalist beleifs.

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