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    Vt found negligent in shooting

    just on my local news

    for not warning students after the first shootings

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    Re: Vt found negligent in shooting

    craziness!!!!!!

    for some odd reason, I was thinking about the Virginia Tech shooting on the way home.

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    Virginia Tech found negligent for delayed warning during '07 shooting massacre - Crimesider - CBS News

    (CBS/AP) CHRISTIANSBURG, Va. - A jury has found Virginia Tech University negligent for delaying a campus warning about the first shootings in the 2007 massacre that ultimately left 33 people dead.
    Jurors returned the verdict Wednesday in a wrongful death civil suit brought by the parents of two students who were killed on April 16, 2007 in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.
    After 3 1/2 hours of deliberation, jurors awarded $4 million to each family, but the state immediately filed a motion to reduce the award. Jurors were not told state law requires the award to be capped at $100,000.

    The families of Erin Peterson and Julia Pryde said the two might be alive today if Virginia Tech police and administrators warned the campus of two shootings in a dorm 2 1/2 hours before Seung-Hui Cho ended his killing spree, then killed himself.
    Perhaps the local police and administrators subscribed to the PURE GOOD or MITZVAH theory of the Second Amendment and believed that nothing bad could ever come from it? Their lack of taking fast action certainly paints them as having rose colored glasses on or being completely divorced from the harsh reality falling down upon them.
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    Re: Vt found negligent in shooting

    I'll tell you where the true NEGLIGENCE lays..... The same place it lays in thousands of colleges and universities across the United States.....

    With institutions that forbid individuals to possess the means to defend themselves and then are not required to provide ARMED and TRAINED security forces of sufficient size to deal with threats inside the Disarmed Zone.

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    Re: Vt found negligent in shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Virginia Tech found negligent for delayed warning during '07 shooting massacre - Crimesider - CBS News



    Perhaps the local police and administrators subscribed to the PURE GOOD or MITZVAH theory of the Second Amendment and believed that nothing bad could ever come from it? Their lack of taking fast action certainly paints them as having rose colored glasses on or being completely divorced from the harsh reality falling down upon them.

    So its your learned opinion that if there was no second amendment (See Mexico, Norway, Dunblane Scotland, Australia, Russia, Northern Ireland, Rwanda, Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Libya) there would be no massacres perpetrated by sickos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I'll tell you where the true NEGLIGENCE lays..... The same place it lays in thousands of colleges and universities across the United States.....

    With institutions that forbid individuals to possess the means to defend themselves and then are not required to provide ARMED and TRAINED security forces of sufficient size to deal with threats inside the Disarmed Zone.
    very loose gun laws didn't save anybody in Texas yesterday, now did it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    very loose gun laws didn't save anybody in Texas yesterday, now did it?
    Not sure what happened in Texas yesterday. Care to give me a SITREP real quick?

    [EDIT]Just saw the story. Again, it happens in a Gun-Free Zone (a courthouse). You are not going to stop criminals from breaking the law, only law-abiding citizens. That's why places that have these restrictions need to start providing proper security. To stop things like this from happening.[/EDIT]
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    So its your learned opinion that if there was no second amendment (See Mexico, Norway, Dunblane Scotland, Australia, Russia, Northern Ireland, Rwanda, Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Libya) there would be no massacres perpetrated by sickos?
    Where did you get a silly idea like that? the very existence of millions - scores of millions - over a hundred million - firearms in America makes them more accessible and changes the odds quite a bit. However, were there no Second Amendment, there still would be killings. The question then becomes the quantity and quantity involved in the massacres and the extent to which the availability and ease of that availability plays a role in those massacres and killings. It is a factor to be considered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Where did you get a silly idea like that? the very existence of millions - scores of millions - over a hundred million - firearms in America makes them more accessible and changes the odds quite a bit. However, were there no Second Amendment, there still would be killings. The question then becomes the quantity and quantity involved in the massacres and the extent to which the availability and ease of that availability plays a role in those massacres and killings. It is a factor to be considered.
    Mexico doesn't have a second amendment and the rate of gun deaths is much higher there

    we also have proof that honest people owning guns deters crime in this country

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    Re: Vt found negligent in shooting

    The only thing more tragic than these types of atrocities themselves, is that individuals seize the opportunity to use them as cheap political theater.

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