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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Much ado about nothing.
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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Well, you're wrong about that. Cabinet secretaries engage in those things all the time. About the only people in government who don't are members of the civil service.
    Proof? Example?
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    And I never said that he wasn't responsible for that. What I said was that was not his primary responsibility. He has other responsibilities that may be more important. Such as directing and administrating the military according to the President's wishes. Which demanding these marines to disarm in order to ensure diplomatic relations with the Afghanis may be an example of.
    Wow, you just aren't going to admit that you misinterperted my original statement are you? Whatever floats your boat.
    I've made my point about the rest of this statement. No need to repeat myself.
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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Proof? Example?
    How about when Secretary of State Colin Powell was lied to by the rest of GWB's administration and was talked into making the case to the UN about how Iraq having weapons of mass destruction to justify going to war there?

    Or how Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez "could not recall" to Congress anything regarding the dismissal of 7 U.S. Attorneys because they weren't loyal enough to the GOP or because they refused to go after Democratic politicians?

    How about when Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger participated in the Iran-Contra Affair and was indicted by a grand jury on 2 counts of perjury and 1 count of obstruction of justice but was pardoned by GHW Bush?

    How about when Richard G. Kleindeist was Nixon's Attorney General and perjured himself before Congress when he said that Nixon and Ehrlichman did not tell him to drop the Watergate break-in?

    Or why not go right to the first Cabinet of George Washington and how Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton and Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson were direct opponents of each other and were both individual leaders of the political groups of the federalists and the democratic-republicans and that was the first party system in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Wow, you just aren't going to admit that you misinterperted my original statement are you? Whatever floats your boat.
    I've made my point about the rest of this statement. No need to repeat myself.
    That's because I didn't misrepresent you.

    I never said that you said that it was SecDef's primary responsibility. I was pointing it out to you.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    So please point out which taxes the GOP would like to increase in order to pay for healthcare for the military.
    How about the Dept of Energy? How about the EPA? How about the Dept of Ed? How about the State Dept? How about the Intel Agencies? IMHO, if you cut the military, then every other federal dept gets the same amount of cut. And no replacing those jobs cut by these agencies with contractors. It's time the govt learned, just like we folks in the hinterlands have had to learn, to do with less and no one coming in with an extra dollar to pick up the slack.

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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Much ado about nothing.
    So, you think the military is not needed?

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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    So, you think the military is not needed?
    Did you fall into any holes making that giant leap in logic?
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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Did you fall into any holes making that giant leap in logic?
    Not at all. If you can be froggy with your "much ado", sounds like it's a free-for-all.

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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Not at all. If you can be froggy with your "much ado", sounds like it's a free-for-all.
    I'm being "froggy" about.... telling people this is a lot of fussing over nothing? Do you know what "much ado about nothing" means? I'll give you a clue: First sentence of this post.
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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm being "froggy" about.... telling people this is a lot of fussing over nothing? Do you know what "much ado about nothing" means? I'll give you a clue: First sentence of this post.
    Now let me gather my thought . . . . IYO, it's much ado, to other folks, especially those who serve or have served this country, it is not a "nothing issue.

    So a question to you. If you think this a nothing thread, why even waste your time on it?

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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Now let me gather my thought
    Should I take that to mean that you can only gather one thought at a time? Actually, forget I asked. As long as you're gathering that thought safely and with all the required protections, I'm happy. I'd hate to see you hurt yourself thinking this thing out too hard.

    . . . . IYO, it's much ado, to other folks, especially those who serve or have served this country, it is not a "nothing issue.
    It's much ado about nothing because people are getting worked up over something minimal. This is no more important than what Obama had for breakfast today. It was Halal meat with hummus. He is a Muslim after all.

    So a question to you. If you think this a nothing thread, why even waste your time on it?
    It's a free forum. Sooner or later you'll realize that being told that you're complaining about something minimal - is a legitimate point of debate.
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