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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It's not like there haven't been troops running amok lately, and somebody welcomed him in country by driving a blazing car onto the runway when he landed. You can see why the possibility of a firefight in the hall didn't appeal.
    Um...yeah!
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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I know that some may not see this as a big deal. For someone in the military, it is huge. Carrying your personal weapon (whether a 9mm pistol, M-4, or M-16A4) while "in country" is standard. As a matter of fact, you cannot enter any messhall without a weapon. The level of distrust shown to the Marines that wanted to meet SECDEF Panetta is just another in a long line of disrespectful moves towards our military by the current administration. I understand if we are meeting the POTUS, we lay down weapons. His office is a political one and can sew discourse in troops that don't approve of his policies. However, the SECDEF is not a political office. In fact, he is overall responsible for voicing the opinions and needs of the very people that were required to disarm to meet him!
    In addition, the General that gave the order to disarm is a pinhead. Many of our General's now-a-days are out of touch, snotty, 10 pound brain types who know nothing of the dirt we chew on the ground. Many of these men have not actually fought in combat. The most combat action they have seen is of the incidental type that happens to occur on their tours of the Area of Operations (AO). These men have read a few books, been to a school or two, and declare themselves "masters of the COIN environment". Sadly, history is repeating itelf in Afghanistan. Vietnam was THE demonstration of what happens when senior officers become involved in lower level decisions. Apparently none of our General's read that in any book.
    So, what say you. Is it disrespectful for the SECDEF and Major General Gurganus to require the Marines to lay down their arms?
    Marines told to disarm before Panetta speech – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs
    That's a huge slap-in-the-face.

    There's something seriously wrong, when the SECDEF doesn't trust his own men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It's not like there haven't been troops running amok lately, and somebody welcomed him in country by driving a blazing car onto the runway when he landed. You can see why the possibility of a firefight in the hall didn't appeal.
    Really? If that is your rationale for disarming the marines you are visiting...stay the **** home.

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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    At the risk of sounding redundant, I still think a half-dozen barehanded United States Marines can rip the heads off of 30 Ali-baba mother****ers, armed to the teeth, and then **** down their camel loving neck.

    But that's just me.

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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    In addition, the General that gave the order to disarm is a pinhead.
    if that's the case how to you blame it on the Obama administration? Do you seriously think he had anything to do with it. Ot would be like blaming Bush directory for Abu Gharib, and I'm not aware of too many people that did that.

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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    I don't blame nothing but war. War is hell. Welcome to hell.

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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    1) The word "politics" comes from the word "policy" - as in which policies the government should enact. Cabinet positions such as the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of State, as well as all other Cabinet positions, execute laws for those government agencies under their purviews on behalf of the President.
    No. They both come the greek word polis--which means city or body of citizens. They have the same root word but neither comes from the other.

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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    Quote Originally Posted by Hikertrash View Post
    if that's the case how to you blame it on the Obama administration? Do you seriously think he had anything to do with it. Ot would be like blaming Bush directory for Abu Gharib, and I'm not aware of too many people that did that.
    Did you read the OP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikertrash View Post
    if that's the case how to you blame it on the Obama administration? Do you seriously think he had anything to do with it. Ot would be like blaming Bush directory for Abu Gharib, and I'm not aware of too many people that did that.
    Unless I'm missing it, the first time Obamas name was mentioned with regard to 'blame' was post 81. Might want to check it and see what that suggests...about you.

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    Re: Marines forced to disarm before meeting secdef panetta

    You down with the OP?

    Yeah, you know me.


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