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    Re: TSA To Get The Boot - Free Market Beats Central Government Control

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    profit is only half the results, also, performance and competition. this is from prison planet though, so I'm not holding my breath.
    Well that's true. I suppose what I don't understand is people cheering kicking the TSA out of a particular airport, but apparently not having a problem with it being replaced a private organization which adheres to the same practices and SOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Well that's true. I suppose what I don't understand is people cheering kicking the TSA out of a particular airport, but apparently not having a problem with it being replaced a private organization which adheres to the same practices and SOP.


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    Re: Major US Airport To Evict TSA Screeners

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    We are hoping they hire better people, and private companies have the risk of being sued.
    Well I'm sure some people think that, but my perception is that a number of folks simply have a reflexive dislike for the TSA because they view it as a direct affront to civil liberties, which is fine, but replacing the TSA with private security doesn't mean a change in protocol so I hardly see what difference it makes.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Well I'm sure some people think that, but my perception is that a number of folks simply have a reflexive dislike for the TSA because they view it as a direct affront to civil liberties, which is fine, but replacing the TSA with private security doesn't mean a change in protocol so I hardly see what difference it makes.

    I agree. I think it is far more offensive patting down injured 3 year olds in wheel chairs than it is profiling a little bit.

    I think instead of tsa making it up on the fly there should be a standar protocol and an optional bypass line, which as a frequent traveler, this libertarian would submit background info to bypass that ****, and does when i can.
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    Re: Major US Airport To Evict TSA Screeners

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I agree. I think it is far more offensive patting down injured 3 year olds in wheel chairs than it is profiling a little bit. I think instead of tsa making it up on the fly there should be a standar protocol and an optional bypass line, which as a frequent traveler, this libertarian would submit background info to bypass that ****, and does when i can.
    Wheel chairs can be used to to hide drugs and explosives. It's not as if kids are somehow immune from drug dealers and terrorism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Wheel chairs can be used to to hide drugs and explosives. It's not as if kids are somehow immune from drug dealers and terrorism.


    Hysterics.... They patted down the kids cast. Over reactiln from a mindless beurocracy, also refused to to optional provate screening.


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    Re: Major US Airport To Evict TSA Screeners

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Hysterics.... They patted down the kids cast.
    Casts have been used in the past to pass off powdered drugs. Actually, cocaine has been passed in ceramic form before. A 2KG cast of cocaine is worth 50-60K wholesale. A few hundred K if not more when it gets cut. Seriously, this is a relatively small nuisance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Casts have been used in the past to pass off powdered drugs. Actually, cocaine has been passed in ceramic form before. A 2KG cast of cocaine is worth 50-60K wholesale. A few hundred K if not more when it gets cut. Seriously, this is a relatively small nuisance.

    Are we concerened about passenger safety here or drug busts?
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    Re: Major US Airport To Evict TSA Screeners

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Are we concerened about passenger safety here or drug busts?
    I have considered both. A cast can be used to hide a matter of things. It should be searched like any other piece of luggage. The same goes for a wheel chair. It wouldn't be that hard to create a secret compartment in a wheelchair and hide explosives or weapons. As I said, my issue with this is the fact that private contractors, don't have an ideological state in this issue. They are there strictly for economic purposes. Not only that but they are bound by economic liabilities and the PR nightmares that companies try to avoid at all costs. This by definition cuts down their effectiveness of any group seeking to replace the TSA's airport personal and more importantly the FAMS.

    Don't you fly regularly? I do. Imagine you have a nightmarish scenario like the Zimmerman-Martin case. By the end of the week and media circus, there wouldn't be a single private company willing to take that kind of political, social and economic hit. Already companies scramble to save face when an asshole passenger gets kicked off the plane for being too far or not getting off his cellphone. Now imagine they have to deal with a security threat where adrenaline rushed and a person died by accident or worse, without reason. Sorry, the free market isn't really a solution to this.
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    Re: Major US Airport To Evict TSA Screeners

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I have considered both. A cast can be used to hide a matter of things. It should be searched like any other piece of luggage. The same goes for a wheel chair. It wouldn't be that hard to create a secret compartment in a wheelchair and hide explosives or weapons. As I said, my issue with this is the fact that private contractors, don't have an ideological state in this issue. They are there strictly for economic purposes. Not only that but they are bound by economic liabilities and the PR nightmares that companies try to avoid at all costs. This by definition cuts down their effectiveness of any group seeking to replace the TSA's airport personal and more importantly the FAMS.

    so you are saying the average TSA has a stake in your safety? you don't fly much do you? What my friend can you hide in your ass that you can hide in a cast? Shall we probe the child as well?



    Don't you fly regularly? I do. Imagine you have a nightmarish scenario like the Zimmerman-Martin case. By the end of the week and media circus, there wouldn't be a single private company willing to take that kind of political, social and economic hit. Already companies scramble to save face when an asshole passenger gets kicked off the plane for being too far or not getting off his cellphone. Now imagine they have to deal with a security threat where adrenaline rushed and a person died by accident or worse, without reason. Sorry, the free market isn't really a solution to this.


    If we are to run it, we should do as isreal.

    Airport security - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Note thier last hijacking was in 1969, and... and... it is much more a pleasure getting through thier security than it is ours. Trust me.

    And a private company would for the right price, do pretty much anything.
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