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    Re: TSA To Get The Boot - Free Market Beats Central Government Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    The perception is that there's an overwhelming bureaucracy that is preventing the TSA from being able to effectively make common sense exceptions and from being able to punish / prevent violations of common decency with much effectiveness.
    The other perception is that these private companies will be more responsive to these needs of their clients and the client's travelers.
    I understand these two perceptions. If the thought is "Woohoo, I like this. People will be more polite and courteous while we go through security, and those that step out of line will be more appropriately punished" then yeah, I get that.

    However it seems to be people cheering as if the "TSA" method of screening is going away or that these private companies would do something different than the pat downs (even to "grandma's) or body scanners and other things.

    The METHODS would remain identical. There's a chance that those acting in an inappropriate manner...mind you, inappropriate based on the guidelines, not inappropriate as in "omg you patted down granny"...may be able to have more actoin taken against them. And maybe there's a shot that the workers may seem more polite. But what you're having to go through in regards to screening wouldn't be changing.

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    Re: Major US Airport To Evict TSA Screeners

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Webb View Post

    ...contract security personnel are more courteous than government workers,"[/I]
    By all indications, they were very courteous to Mohammed Atta on the morning of 9/11/01. That was kind of the problem. It was obvious enough that even the Republican party wanted to "socialize" airport security. They were, after all, in charge of both houses of Congress and the White House when the TSA and Department of Homeland Security were created.


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    Re: Major US Airport To Evict TSA Screeners

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    By all indications, they were very courteous to Mohammed Atta on the morning of 9/11/01. That was kind of the problem. It was obvious enough that even the Republican party wanted to "socialize" airport security. They were, after all, in charge of both houses of Congress and the White House when the TSA and Department of Homeland Security were created.
    Many companies pay for security. It's the cost of doing business. Banks do, of course. Remember this story?

    Egyptian gunman kills two in US airport shooting

    "An Egyptian immigrant armed with guns and a knife opened fire at the Los Angeles International Airport ticket counter of Israeli airline El Al, killing two people before an airline security guard shot him dead.

    Four other people were injured, including two El Al security guards, the FBI said.

    The governor praised the airline's response, saying security agents acted quickly and prevented a greater loss of life."


    Egyptian gunman kills two in US airport shooting | Mail Online

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    "In 2008, over 3 million tourists visited Israel.[279] Israel has the highest number of museums per capita in the world."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

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    The private airline, El Al, flies tourists to and from:

    Europe

    Flights to Zurich
    Flights to Frankfurt
    Flights to Brussels
    Flights to Vienna
    Flights to Warsaw
    Flights to St.Petersburg
    Flights to Kiev
    Flights to Athens
    Flights to Budapest
    Flights to Geneva
    Flights to Marseille
    Flights to Bucharest
    Flight to Bulgaria

    Australia

    Flights to Sydney

    Far East

    Flights to Bangkok
    Flights to Hong Kong
    Flights to Beijing
    Flights to Mumbai

    South Africa

    Flights to Johannesburg

    North America

    Flights to New York
    Flights to Los Angeles
    Flights to Canada

    South America

    Flights to Sao Paulo

    Flights to Israel

    El Al's security is the best. Mohammed Atta and his buddies wouldn't have gotten far with their box cutters.

    As far as blaming the Republicans, both major parties can go extinct as far as I'm concerned. Big government needs to be small government. And, companies that don't pay enough for security should go out of business. It's just basic stuff. Airlines are businesses, governments shouldn't have to tell them how to wipe their asses, poorly run businesses go out of business.

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    Today's news poses the question of whether the TSA changes policy for politics.

    "Former Congressman Bob Barr’s Liberty Guard organization has filed a lawsuit against the TSA after the federal agency refused to comply with a Freedom of Information Act request that sought to discover whether or not the TSA temporarily amended its security policies for political reasons during the height of the national opt out day protest in late 2010."

    » Bob Barr Files Lawsuit Against TSA Over ‘Drudge’ Controversy Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

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    Goodbye TSA.
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    Re: Major US Airport To Evict TSA Screeners

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    By all indications, they were very courteous to Mohammed Atta on the morning of 9/11/01. That was kind of the problem.
    IF this is an attempt at jabbing at the idea of private screeners, than on many factual levels. If it isn't, and I misinterpreted the post like a herp-derp, mybad.
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    Re: TSA To Get The Boot - Free Market Beats Central Government Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
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    Lots of workplaces have talk shows playing in the background at warehouses, manufacturing facilities, waiting rooms, lunch rooms, etc.
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    Re: TSA To Get The Boot - Free Market Beats Central Government Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    The perception is that there's an overwhelming bureaucracy that is preventing the TSA from being able to effectively make common sense exceptions and from being able to punish / prevent violations of common decency with much effectiveness.
    The other perception is that these private companies will be more responsive to these needs of their clients and the client's travelers.

    These may or may not be true.
    It isn't bureacracy, it's the law.

    Privatized airport security is going to have to follow every TSA regulation or they're going to get shut down.
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    Re: TSA To Get The Boot - Free Market Beats Central Government Control

    I like the idea of kicking the TSA out, only if a for profit kind of TSA does not take its place.


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    Re: TSA To Get The Boot - Free Market Beats Central Government Control

    What does "for profit" have to do with it? Why would that be a factor?

    Private, for-profit security is ubiquitous and has been around for centuries. Why does it matter in this case?
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    Re: TSA To Get The Boot - Free Market Beats Central Government Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I also fail to see what any of this has to do with the free market. As airports are usually owned by local and state governments, the private security firms are merely being handed government contracts.
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    Re: TSA To Get The Boot - Free Market Beats Central Government Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I like the idea of kicking the TSA out, only if a for profit kind of TSA does not take its place.
    Let the Black Water do it.
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