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danarhea

danarhea

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“It’s disheartening for me to see our party move away from what it was always about and that is to stay out of people’s lives, let them live their lives, don’t impose their religion on anybody else. Don’t impose their feelings, let them live, and uphold the Constitution. And, sadly to say, federally, I don’t think that’s happening.”


“I do not have a favorite in the presidential race, if I had to vote today, I’d vote for Obama. Absolutely…Because I really, truly think that the candidates that are out there today for the Republican side would take women back decades.”
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This quote comes from a woman who has been a Republican state lawmaker in New York for decades. Not only is she now leaving politics, but she is going to vote for Obama.

I have no plans to vote for Obama, or any other Democrat, this year, but I definitely feel her pain. This is not the Republican party I grew up with, and was part of for many years. It has moved from sensible to bat poop crazy. I also feel that she is not the only Republican who is going to be kicking the party to the curb this year. But sometimes it takes a real beating for a person, organization, or a political party to finally come to it's senses, and regain sanity that was lost.

A toast to the Republican party - May the GOP die this year, and then, like a phoenix, arise from the ashes to become the Grand Old Party it once was.

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Danarhea, I agree with you. I was never the opposite to republicans on everything in sight. But, the new "neo-con" tea-partiers scare the livin daylights out of me. And sadly, for you Bob Dole only had one kid, Robin, and I don't see any evidence that she's into politics. I bet if someone in the Republican party started a "where are our moderates" or "we want our party back" website, with a petition, you'd get a cazillion sigs. But, right now is to close to an election for that kind of movement.
 
Rosie1 said:
Danarhea, I agree with you. I was never the opposite to republicans on everything in sight. But, the new "neo-con" tea-partiers scare the livin daylights out of me. And sadly, for you Bob Dole only had one kid, Robin, and I don't see any evidence that she's into politics. I bet if someone in the Republican party started a "where are our moderates" or "we want our party back" website, with a petition, you'd get a cazillion sigs. But, right now is to close to an election for that kind of movement.
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The tea partiers are neocons? that's a new one.
This quote comes from a woman who has been a Republican state lawmaker in New York for decades. Not only is she now leaving politics, but she is going to vote for Obama.

I have no plans to vote for Obama, or any other Democrat, this year, but I definitely feel her pain. This is not the Republican party I grew up with, and was part of for many years. It has moved from sensible to bat poop crazy. I also feel that she is not the only Republican who is going to be kicking the party to the curb this year. But sometimes it takes a real beating for a person, organization, or a political party to finally come to it's senses, and regain sanity that was lost.

A toast to the Republican party - May the GOP die this year, and then, like a phoenix, arise from the ashes to become the Grand Old Party it once was.
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While I am also struggling with whether to vote for obama or not, I find her reasons weird, considering Obama is arguably, further to the right than Romney is.
 
There may be some hope yet for our Republican friends on women's issues.

In addition to Assemblywoman Sayward's comments, there's a couple of things in the last few days from another Republican with perhaps a little larger profile....


First, Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) admits that she regrets voting for the GOP’s Blunt amendment.

Then, while other high ranking Republican officials tip-toe around de facto leader Limbaugh's recent blunder, Sen. Murkowski goes on to say to TPM:

“The comments made by Limbaugh, I was just stunned,” she added. “In the end, I’m a little bit disappointed that there hasn’t been greater condemnation of his words by people in leadership positions.” Including Republicans? “Everybody,” she responded. “What he said was just wrong. Just wrong.”
 
Hi is there some thing big issue in between republican friends
 
I wonder if she's just yet another "Republican" fed up with the current crop that aren't what "republicans" stand for and recalls a better day when Ronald Reagan was running for President and you know...didn't speak negatively of democrats, didn't talk about good and evil, didn't use strong rhetoric against abortion, didn't believe in a strong military as a means of defense, and was just the perfect republicna for them.
 
Zyphlin said:
I wonder if she's just yet another "Republican" fed up with the current crop that aren't what "republicans" stand for and recalls a better day when Ronald Reagan was running for President and you know...didn't speak negatively of democrats, didn't talk about good and evil, didn't use strong rhetoric against abortion, didn't believe in a strong military as a means of defense, and was just the perfect republicna for them.
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I remember a time when Reagan and Tip O'Neil fought each other all day on issues but, at the end of the day, drank beer together. Both of them loved America, and both knew that fact.
 
Zyphlin said:
I wonder if she's just yet another "Republican" fed up with the current crop that aren't what "republicans" stand for and recalls a better day when Ronald Reagan was running for President and you know...didn't speak negatively of democrats, didn't talk about good and evil, didn't use strong rhetoric against abortion, didn't believe in a strong military as a means of defense, and was just the perfect republicna for them.
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It's more likely that she thinks that the Republican Party is no longer a "big tent" party that was accepting of many views within it.

And, in that regard, I feel her pain as well.
 
danarhea said:
I remember a time when Reagan and Tip O'Neil fought each other all day on issues but, at the end of the day, drank beer together. Both of them loved America, and both knew that fact.
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And you think that most Republicans in office now don't have Democratic friends? That they don't love America? Or do you just take rhetoric as proof for modern politicians but ignore it for Reagan?
 
Zyphlin said:
And you think that most Republicans in office now don't have Democratic friends? That they don't love America? Or do you just take rhetoric as proof for modern politicians but ignore it for Reagan?
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I see what's going on. This atmosphere is definitely orders of magnitude more toxic than it was under Reagan, and you know it.
 
danarhea said:
I see what's going on. This atmosphere is definitely orders of magnitude more toxic than it was under Reagan, and you know it.
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I think the atmosphere is more toxic...I don't think the politicians are at fault for that or that politicians are more toxic. I think the 24/7 news cycle, social networking, blogs, forums, youtube, video phones, and other such things all contribute to the toxic nature of political climate far more than how our politicians are. Go look at people's reaction to the leaked McCain "bomb bomb bomb Iran" comment. Now take Reagan's "we're nuking Russia" incident that got some run and place that into the modern age and tell me people wouldn't have acted like Reagan was some kind of reckless unhinged war mongering toxic right wing extremist?
 
danarhea said:
I remember a time when Reagan and Tip O'Neil fought each other all day on issues but, at the end of the day, drank beer together. Both of them loved America, and both knew that fact.
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They also played cards together at night.
 
The people in power practice thought control, including hiding their tactics by making people fear that any insight behind the scenes is a conspiracy theory. I dare to believe that they are orchestrating the self-destruction of the GOPers because Obama is their most-favored puppet. They use him to implement America's change to a depressed authoritarian society dependent on those who actually run things and run us into the ground while they feast in high places.
 
danarhea said:
I see what's going on. This atmosphere is definitely orders of magnitude more toxic than it was under Reagan, and you know it.
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Yeah, that happens when one side starts fighting back on every front and not just the ones that are obvious.
 
Can you imagine a debate between Reagan and Obama. The left, of course, thinks Obama would mop the floor with Reagan.
 
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