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    Re: Obama Calls to Congratulate Putin

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Weird, id figure moscow would be all about him and st pete would be strongly against.
    He's from St. Petersburg.


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    Re: Obama Calls to Congratulate Putin

    I found it funny how just as this Putin is being elected they start running old Vlad Putin documentaries on TV. Same old tactics never fail

    If you noticed, US media has a way of making other places- namely everywhere- look like breeding grounds for the anti-Christ if not sites for a civil apocalypse. I had just happened to talk to a Russian woman visiting the country a few days ago and she said there is strong support for him precisely because he is tough and won't be led about by US or EU interference.

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    Re: Obama Calls to Congratulate Putin

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    He's from St. Petersburg.
    He's a staunch russophile, however.
    Generally more of a moscow thing.

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    Re: Obama Calls to Congratulate Putin

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    Obama Calls to Congratulate Putin | The Weekly Standard

    Why couldn't he have just said nothing?
    It's just what world leaders do for each other. I'm sure that Putin probably congratulated Obama when he was elected too. For Obama to not offer his congratulations might have upset US-Russian diplomatic relations. And there is no reason to do that when we wouldn't even be gaining anything by Obama's silence.
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    Re: Obama Calls to Congratulate Putin

    For the sake of US-Russian relations, it probably was not the worst decision.
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    Re: Obama Calls to Congratulate Putin

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    Obama Calls to Congratulate Putin | The Weekly Standard



    Why couldn't he have just said nothing?
    What precisely is wrong with saying something? Like it or not, we have to deal with Putin for the next six years. Giving the guy the finger isn't exactly the best way to begin a cooperative relationship.
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    Re: Obama Calls to Congratulate Putin

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie1 View Post
    Putin didn't need to rig the election. Polls have shown him ahead for months. Surely people don't think Obama should have ignored Putin's win.
    Only conservatives, who know far more about foreign policy than the President of the United States or the State Department. It doesn't matter which President or which state department.

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    Re: Obama Calls to Congratulate Putin

    obama and putin having some agreements in development of country

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