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    Re: Israel Asks for Bunker Buster

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    But why? Iran hasn't started any wars. They have not attacked anyone. Iran is a peaceful country....
    they attack Israel through Hamas & Hezbollah. They tried to kill diplomats in the USA and in other countries.

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    Re: Israel Asks for Bunker Buster

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    But why? Iran hasn't started any wars. They have not attacked anyone. Iran is a peaceful country and their people pro-Western society - sure their government saber rattle but that's because they are a small scared little country surrounded by the U.S. in Afghanistan and until recently Iraq. Israel has been nothing but antagonistic towards Iran, for nothing other than paranoia about being attacked. Israel and you should be supportive of Iran's use of peaceful nuclear power and they've said over and over again they are NOT creating weapons, and there is no evidence of them creating weapons, nor is there evidence that they have a method to deliver weapons even if they had them.
    While US intelligence sources indicate that Iran is not building a bomb, the IAEA has uncovered evidence that Iran is thinking about it. Iran has been testing nuclear detonators at Parchin (until they recently moved them out), and had in their possession plans for a nuclear warhead from A.Q. Kahn (probably the world's most infamous nuclear proliferator).

    A civilian nuclear program in Iran is perfectly cool. And no one is complaining about that. A military nuclear program is not acceptable, especially given Iran's penchant for worldwide terrorist support. Iran's belief that Israel is "a cancerous tumor that must be cut, and will be cut," makes Iran's intentions with regard to nuclear arms very ominous and worthy of alarm.

    Even so, now is not the time for an attack. Obama has rightly held back, and insisted on the same from Israel. I doubt that he will supply bunker-busters to Israel at this time, but that may change. Obama is right to let Iran be the center of attention and have its 15-minutes of fame, but after that Iran needs to sit down for serious and sincere negotiations. If they continue to use talks as a stalling tactic, as they have in the past, Israel may get those bunker-busters after all.
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    Re: Israel Asks for Bunker Buster

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I think what I find the most interesting about this is that the people who say they are pro-Israel and want to attack Iran somehow don't comprehend that Israeli civilians will end up being killed if Iran is attacked. Since Iran cannot attack the US directly, they will attack US military bases in the region, but will also attack Israel as well. This won't be a normal attack, it will most likely be sustained for as long as possible and the opening salvos may be quite hard. Israeli civilians will most likely end up being killed if Iran is attacked. Thus, I must ask the people who want Iran to be attacked: Do you think it is worth it?
    Far more civilians would be killed if a nuclear weapon is detonated in Tel Aviv. I say we take the lesser of the two evils and make sure the greater of the two is never achieved. You don't even realize that Israel attacking Iran's nuclear capability, is actually saving hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Iranian lives. Because if a nuclear weapon is detonated in Israel, the nuclear retaliation would practically wipe Iran off the map. So to protect Israeli and Iranian civilians, I say let the bombing commence!

    And eagle, we've played this game already. They've stalled for years, they have no interest in negotiating and the IAEA says they are pursueing a nuclear device in at least some capacity. I say the time to act is now. God speed Israel, you have my support.
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    Re: Israel Asks for Bunker Buster

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Far more civilians would be killed if a nuclear weapon is detonated in Tel Aviv. I say we take the lesser of the two evils and make sure the greater of the two is never achieved. You don't even realize that Israel attacking Iran's nuclear capability, is actually saving hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Iranian lives. Because if a nuclear weapon is detonated in Israel, the nuclear retaliation would practically wipe Iran off the map. So to protect Israeli and Iranian civilians, I say let the bombing commence!

    And eagle, we've played this game already. They've stalled for years, they have no interest in negotiating and the IAEA says they are pursueing a nuclear device in at least some capacity. I say the time to act is now. God speed Israel, you have my support.
    Well if you're going to use that excuse far more people will die of a WW3 than if we just nuke the entire middle east. Should we take your logic seriously as well?

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    Re: Israel Asks for Bunker Buster

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Far more civilians would be killed if a nuclear weapon is detonated in Tel Aviv...
    no one is going to detonate a nuke in Tel Aviv.

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    Re: Israel Asks for Bunker Buster

    Suspected Iranian backed terrorist arrest in Azerbaijan.

    Azerbaijan Arrests Alleged Iran-hired Terrorists | Fox News

    Wasn't someone trying to convince us how "peaceful" Iran is?

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    Re: Israel Asks for Bunker Buster

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Suspected Iranian backed terrorist arrest in Azerbaijan.

    Azerbaijan Arrests Alleged Iran-hired Terrorists | Fox News

    Wasn't someone trying to convince us how "peaceful" Iran is?
    and what do you call the people (possibly Isreal) that killed the Iranian scientists?

    BTW countries (including the U.S.) have done black ops for decades. Do you consider those that do black ops terrorists?

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    Re: Israel Asks for Bunker Buster

    Well according to Wikipedia the penetration record for Bunker Busters is 15 feet (unbeaten since world war two) which won't be a great deal of good if many of these facilities are beneath mountains.

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    Re: Israel Asks for Bunker Buster

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Well according to Wikipedia the penetration record for Bunker Busters is 15 feet (unbeaten since world war two) which won't be a great deal of good if many of these facilities are beneath mountains.
    15'?

    that's nothing. Looks like Israel may have to accept a nuclear Iran.

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    Re: Israel Asks for Bunker Buster

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no one is going to detonate a nuke in Tel Aviv.
    Of course they aren't.

    Aren't you going to address my questions though?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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