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    Re: Obama Administration Approves Key Portion of The Keystone Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Turner doesn't want the pipeine crossing the Bad River on his Buffalo ranch.
    Ooops, you are correct.

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves Key Portion of The Keystone Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ooops, you are correct.
    LOLOL..

    Thanks..

    The clean up issues are very different in these tumbling rivers as opposed to the ocean.


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    Re: Obama Administration Approves Key Portion of The Keystone Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Crossing the rivers seems to be the biggest concern of the environmentalists.. and with just cause. I explained it two posts above.
    No, the biggest concern of the environmentalists is that nasty old Canadian tar sand oil moving through our country.

    That was illustrated in the OP's article.
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    Re: Obama Administration Approves Key Portion of The Keystone Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Your reply seems to me a bit off, as I was replying to this:



    As we can see...you are expressing your opinion on the failure of Obama to accept the Pipeline, debasing him as "Poor Obama", and claiming his actions are compromised due to influences from Republicans, Environmentalists....and whoever else you can dig up. My comment and link simply pointed out the error of your assumptions by providing Data that the President had intended to help this aspect of the pipeline from the get go, thus your flip flop comment is somewhat inaccurate.
    My assumptions are sound given past actions of Obama and given the attitudes of the environmentalists.

    Your mistake is believing the reasoning that Obama has made public...just so much disinformation.

    This isn't the first time he's used some issue for political gain, you know.
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    Re: Obama Administration Approves Key Portion of The Keystone Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    No, the biggest concern of the environmentalists is that nasty old Canadian tar sand oil moving through our country.

    That was illustrated in the OP's article.
    Oh piffle.. You think everyone who writes an article has the facts or has invested much thought and research?

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves Key Portion of The Keystone Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    My assumptions are sound given past actions of Obama and given the attitudes of the environmentalists.

    You have yet to point out these actions...please do.

    Your mistake is believing the reasoning that Obama has made public...just so much disinformation.

    As I do not have security clearance, access to secret Government files, or your ability to perceive the unseen...I am limited to Public Data. As it seems you are privy to such things, please post them here to educate those of us less fortunate in the area of Government insight.

    This isn't the first time he's used some issue for political gain, you know.
    Yes, I do know. He is after all a politician, funny how those guys tend to politic.

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves Key Portion of The Keystone Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Yes, I do know. He is after all a politician, funny how those guys tend to politic.
    Here's one example of many:

    Immigration Reform. Obama promised Latinos that he would pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform in his first year.

    Here's what Latinos think of that:

    Talking Out of Both Sides of His Mouth:

    With the President amping up deportations, many Latinos feel he is speaking one way to them and in another fashion to the rest of America: blaming obstructionist Republicans for refusing to partner to pass CIR, then talking tough, especially to non-Hispanic audiences, on enforcement.

    http://www.latina.com/lifestyle/our-...ce-immigration
    Add that to his pretzel-action on oil...on again, off again, on again...and you begin to see a pattern, eh? I don't think it's possible for him to take a stand on any issue and stick with it.

    Do you want more examples?
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    Re: Obama Administration Approves Key Portion of The Keystone Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Here's one example of many:

    Immigration Reform. Obama promised Latinos that he would pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform in his first year.

    Here's what Latinos think of that:



    Add that to his pretzel-action on oil...on again, off again, on again...and you begin to see a pattern, eh? I don't think it's possible for him to take a stand on any issue and stick with it.

    Do you want more examples?
    Firstly, I agree Obama has not implemented Immigration reform to a large extent. I also understand that Obama CANNOT do so without action in Congress, and that would be a miracle should it happen. He has a hard time getting through even the things Republicans want, as they seem to go against their own agendas to spite him and deny our president the ability to do his job. It is also worth pointing out that he's been a bit preoccupied with a couple hundred other important aspects of repairing this country...It's interesting how the Republicans all lined up behind Bush on Immigration reform, but line up in front of Obama when he tries to do the same damn thing.
    As far as the Oil thingy, I might point out the increase in leases, domestic production, and support for the industry...but you are already aware of these things, hopefully. I imagine you are linking the Keystone Pipeline to Oil in general, as it gives you a talking point from which to complain. I suppose you also blame Obama for Gas price increases as this fits the "Pattern".

    If you actually decided to do a small bit of research on google, or god forbid read anything...you would note this patterned pretzel you are seeing, does not exist.

    I would very much like a few more examples, preferably a few that are pertinent to the debate and question asked of you.

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves Key Portion of The Keystone Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Poor Obama...

    First, he puts off his decision on the pipeline with his "environmental" excuses...when what he really wanted was to put off the decision until after the election. That way he could cater to his environmentalist liberal base.

    Then, he gets smacked around by the Republicans and has to make a stand...and gets more flak for not allowing the creation of jobs.

    Then, gas and oil prices skyrocket and he's seen as not doing anything about it...in fact, he's seen as part of the problem.

    So, to salvage some campaign capital, he throws his environmentalist base under the bus and approves the pipeline.


    It's a wonder he doesn't get neck strains from all the pretzel-like twisting and turning he's doing. I can't help but wonder if his loss of credibility from these flip-flops is worth it to him. Is getting re-elected REALLY worth it?
    Hey!!! The president is an idiot for not allowing the pipeline!
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    Hey!!! The president is an idiot for allowing the pipeline!

    When your points are so incoherent it's hard to consider anything you say as "serious".
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    Re: Obama Administration Approves Key Portion of The Keystone Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Oh piffle.. You think everyone who writes an article has the facts or has invested much thought and research?
    In regards to the article, there really isn't any inherent bias in it, the quote myocraft uses is from the enviromentalists response that is quoted within the article.

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