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Documents: PETA kills more than 95 percent of pets in its care

The worst cases require experienced people like this. Some cases aren't like that though. And even though it isn't a ubiquitous solution, it would certainly help. I'm just saying that people could be a lot better educated. I think many dogs that are returned to shelters could have been kept if the owners had a better education about dog behavior and psychology.

Agreed. One of the biggest regrets of my life, and that's saying something, is when I took a Rottweiler I had to the pound because it tore a hole in the wall of my apartment. I look back and realize it was my fault it acted like that. It just wanted more attention and my wife and I failed at that. Since then, we have adopted a German Shepherd and treat her like a spoiled child lol. People need to realize that, most of the time, their dog will act the way its treated.
 
No. That is what made the thread so stupid. People claiming PETA is hypocritical, based solely on the fact they don't actually understand PETA's positions.
No, they're hypocritical pure and simple, read this:

Here's more interesting stuff:

PETA Kills Animals: Hypocrisy

Several celebrities are PETA activists, but have shown flexibility with the organization's forceful call for strict vegetarianism, also known as veganism.

Pamela Anderson's Dodge Viper (auctioned to benefit PETA) had a "luxurious leather interior."
Jenna Jameson was photographed fishing, slurping oysters, and wearing a leather jacket just weeks after launching an anti-leather campaign for PETA.
Morrissey got an official okay from PETA after eating at a steakhouse.
Dita von Teese has written about her love of furs and foie gras.
Steve-O built a career on abusing small animals on film.
The officially "anti-fur" Eva Mendes has worn fur anyway.
Bill Maher serves as a board member for PETA and openly admits that he eats meat, just "not much meat".
 
No, there's a point to be made, so no, don't just blow it off.

PETA has explained why it euthanizes animals, so let's end that one argument about PETA supposedly being hypocritical for doing so.


Here's the dfifference between me and PETa. If I saw those animals, I would kill them immediately. No ***** footing around while they suffer so I can take a picture to post on my website in order to tug at people's heartstrings.

Since I don't have the right equipment, though, I'd kill them by putting a bullet in their brain, or simply stepping on their throats until they die which PETA would say is inhumane and cruel, but I say keeping those miserable things long enough to get them to PETA only to have those sadistic pieces of **** keep them alive long enough to snap off a few publicity pics before they put them down in a "humane" fashion is inhumane and cruel.

And therein lies the real hypocrisy of PETA. They say they are Euthanizing in order to end suffering as quickly as possible, but they take even one ****ing second away from ending those animal's suffering to snap off publicity picture. they are the true vermin.
 
You are saying that in the absense of knowing what they do. The animals that get euthenized are feral animals, diseased animals, and the big one, they provide euthenazia services to animal shelters that do not have the equipment or training to do it humanely.

Being a pit bull is not a disease or a feral condition.
 
Who was it posted for PETA haters?
A group that pays people to hit their opponents in the face with "soy cream pies"?

You don't have to be a hater to dislike PETA, you just have to have a brain.
 
Agreed. One of the biggest regrets of my life, and that's saying something, is when I took a Rottweiler I had to the pound because it tore a hole in the wall of my apartment. I look back and realize it was my fault it acted like that. It just wanted more attention and my wife and I failed at that. Since then, we have adopted a German Shepherd and treat her like a spoiled child lol. People need to realize that, most of the time, their dog will act the way its treated.

If dogs aren't given plenty of structured exercise they will often engage in destructive behavior. I have no problem with crate training dogs either. Obviously, they shouldn't spend the majority of their day in there, but the truth is, your dog sleeps 90% of the time when left home alone. I crate trained my Rottie for the first year and haven't needed it since.
 
He does it to fill the emotional void in his heart.

What makes you say that? He's been around packs of dogs since he was a child. In fact he was ridiculed for it as a child.
 
The funniest (or saddest thing) is that PETA doesn't oppose abortion - that's the only type of life that PETA doesn't have a problem with being killed.
 
The funniest (or saddest thing) is that PETA doesn't oppose abortion - that's the only type of life that PETA doesn't have a problem with being killed.

They are apparently just peachy with killing animals as well as fetuses.

But seriously, why would or should People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals give a rat's ass about human fetuses?
 
PETA wastes a lot of time and money on retarded campaigns like calling fish "sea kittens". They could be so much more effective if they put that money into teaching people how to read and communicate with cats, dogs, and other domesticated animals. People are amazed when Cesar Millan can immediately alter unwanted behavior in dogs. It isn't magic. Instead of reading books about how to rehabilitate animals, people give up and blame the animal for not being able to be rehomed. This is a failure on man's part, not the animals. "Dysfunctional" animals are created by humans. If one knows what they are doing, any animal that doesn't have some medical issue, can be rehabilitated. Yes, there are still too many animals and too few finances and volunteers to save them all, but we could do a helluva lot better.




mmmmmmm Sea kittens......
 
Agreed. One of the biggest regrets of my life, and that's saying something, is when I took a Rottweiler I had to the pound because it tore a hole in the wall of my apartment. I look back and realize it was my fault it acted like that. It just wanted more attention and my wife and I failed at that. Since then, we have adopted a German Shepherd and treat her like a spoiled child lol. People need to realize that, most of the time, their dog will act the way its treated.

I took a dog to the pound once because it was inconvenient to keep him. I was getting married and found a nice apt for my new bride that didn't take dogs. I thought I was doing the adult thing but in retrospect it was possibly the worst thing I ever did and it still haunts me. Like you I have recently adopted a dog from a kill shelter and she is the sweetest dog you could imagine, it's like at some level they know you saved their life. It doesn't assuage my guilt for taking my other dog to the pound but you can't change what you have done you can only learn from it.
 
Cat rescue is what I do. So here is my IMHO about this....

PETA generally ends up with animals that have been abused. Not those that have lived in a loving environment. Those animals do not have social skills and can not be rehomed so euthanasia is an appropriate solution.

No-kill shelters are packed solid everywhere. My local government pound contractor kills 85% of the cats they take in INCLUDING highly socialized cats that would make someone a GREAT companion.

This is MY website - there are no ads - I do this because I give a damn. Advocacy for exceptional cats in imminent danger

Maybe this will give you a better idea of the horror of what's going on. I think PETA is nuts but I support some of what they do.

You must not have seen what PETA was doing in Ahoskie, NC. They would routinely stop by local animal shelters and veterinary facilities, pick up puppies and kittens, euthanize them in the back of their van and then dump them in the local town's dumpsters. They got caught on that one, and that little story made national news, happened about 5 years ago.
 
When I operated a shelter, I got 100% of my cats from death row. These wwre all well socialized cats -= I went to the pound every day and "interviewed" all the available cats and as soon as they started showing the inevitable URI, I would buy them and take them to my medical facility, develop their social skills and rehome them. I did this at a cost of about $300 per cat.

I was accused by another rescue group of being "Hitler" because I chose only the cats that had the best social skills. My contention was/is that the ones with the best social skills are the ones easiest to ultimately find homes for. There was no way for me to take cats that might take years to socialize, I simply didn't have the resources.

If you, or anyone, obtains an animal that is damaged and chooses to invest the hundreds of hours and dollars that socialization requires, I salute you. What a noble thing to do. However, I wanted to save as many as practical and I could not practically make the investment of taking a socially damaged animal in priority over a socialized one.

If you did go to my website, you'll learn that the pound loves to kill animals and does so for the most arbitrary reasons. The ferals have no hope and never even make it to adoption section.

I'm not sure why I'm defending PETA. Hell, I don't know if I am defending PETA. I'm just saying that I understand there is no possible way to save all the lost and abandoned animals that these disgusting humans keep supplying by not fixing their pets or just leaving them when they move. Add to that the ones whose owners die or are arrested. There are MILLIONS of them.

I visit and donate to all the active low-kill shelters (no such thing as a no-kill) and the biggest one here has hundreds of cats living in squalor. So, it's a hard call to make sometimes.

The black one was a feral and it took me years to socialize him. The other 2 are death row cats.

The black one reminds me of a cat I had a few years back. Poor guy caught Feline Leukemia. Thinner but fur was kinda wild just like that one, 22lb cat that wasnt afraid of anything, named appropriately enough, Trouble.
 
Why? Did the shelter (pound) hire PETA to do this? Adopting from the pound here (in LV) costs you $80. Was PETA buying animals for the pleasure of killing them? This really makes no sense - sounds more like and Urban Legend than a plausible reality. I'm not questioning your own veracity, just the story doesn't seem plausible.

I'm NOT defending PETA and I don't support gratuitous euthanisation. It's just strange that Vets would have all these puppies and kittens laying around and be, like, wow, here comes PETA, lets just give these to them and get them snuffed.


You must not have seen what PETA was doing in Ahoskie, NC. They would routinely stop by local animal shelters and veterinary facilities, pick up puppies and kittens, euthanize them in the back of their van and then dump them in the local town's dumpsters. They got caught on that one, and that little story made national news, happened about 5 years ago.
 
PuBare (the black cat) is very intelligent. He comes and mumbles when the litter box is dirty, he can open and close any cabinet door and he can speak Japanese (well, not really).

He's a little shy around new people but he's the Cat Friend that outlasted the last 3 girlfriends. Sweet Pathos.


The black one reminds me of a cat I had a few years back. Poor guy caught Feline Leukemia. Thinner but fur was kinda wild just like that one, 22lb cat that wasnt afraid of anything, named appropriately enough, Trouble.
 
I disapprove of those things, yes. However, I approve of their actions that actually do some good. There are a total of zero organizations I think do nothing but good. We live in a world where there are shades of grey. In the case of PETA and euthanasia of animals, what they are doing is a good thing and is 100 % consistent with their views.

Supporting terrorist,groups like the ALF is not a grey area.

Cpl USMC MILITARY POLICE K-9 Unit. VIA taptalk.
 
Why? Did the shelter (pound) hire PETA to do this? Adopting from the pound here (in LV) costs you $80. Was PETA buying animals for the pleasure of killing them? This really makes no sense - sounds more like and Urban Legend than a plausible reality. I'm not questioning your own veracity, just the story doesn't seem plausible.

I'm NOT defending PETA and I don't support gratuitous euthanisation. It's just strange that Vets would have all these puppies and kittens laying around and be, like, wow, here comes PETA, lets just give these to them and get them snuffed.

Oh, this happened. Here is a piece of the excerpt from the trial convicting these 2 PETA perps:

In 2007 two PETA employees went on trial in North Carolina for felony animal cruelty and littering (they were convicted of the latter). But it came out during trial that PETA killed healthy, adoptable, “adorable,” even “perfect” animals.



Those “adorable” and “perfect” quotes are from trial evidence: A PETA defendant’s notebook contained both those words as descriptions of the condition in which the animals PETA killed were obtained. Witnesses testified that they were told that PETA “shouldn’t have a problem at all finding homes” for dogs they handed over to PETA. Those dogs, of course, were killed. And PETA ignominiously tossed the bodies in a dumpster.

Center for Consumer Freedom – Sorry, Ruby: PETA Killed Healthy Animals, Too

There's more.

Authorities in Ahoskie, North Carolina dropped a disturbing bombshell
yesterday with the news that they had charged two employees of People
for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) with 31 felony counts of
animal cruelty. PETA's Andrew Cook and Adria Hinkle were arrested late
Wednesday night after police saw them dump bags containing seven dead
puppies and 11 other dead animals in a grocery store's dumpster. Their
PETA-owned van, seized by police, contained another 13 animal bodies.
Ahoskie's police chief told reporters: "We've been investigating animal
cruelty and illegal disposal of dead animals within our city for the
last four weeks" -- roughly the same period of time in which our
popular PetaKillsAnimals.com website and giant Times Square billboard
have been making news.

PETA Norfolk HeadquartersResponding to our website, PETA has claimed
that most of the animals it kills are "broken beings" and that: "[W]e
refer every healthy, cute, young animal we can to shelters." But the
dead animals included a female cat and -- according to a local
veterinarian -- her two "very adoptable" kittens. "These were just
kittens we were trying to find homes for," he told PETA's hometown
Virginian-Pilot. "PETA said they would do that, but these cats never
made it out of the county."

PETA's Andrew Cook & Adria Hinkle
The animal-control officer responsible for the county where Cook and
Hinkle were arrested told the Associated Press that PETA had picked up
the animals just a few hours earlier. He added that PETA's employees
"told him they were picking up the dogs to take them back to Norfolk
where they would find them good homes."

Instead, the animals wound up being treated in a decidedly unethical
fashion. This morning the Roanoke-Chowan News-Herald began distributing
a grisly photograph showing a police detective in hazmat garb removing
a puppy carcass from a garbage bag found in the now-infamous dumpster.


Last night WAVY-TV's coverage in Norfolk included heartbreaking details
from the manager of the supermarket whose dumpster became an impromptu
pet cemetery. "They just slung the doors [open] and started throwing
dogs ... beautiful cats. I saw a [dead] beagle last week that was
pregnant ... last week it was 23 or 24 dogs ... it's happened to us
nine times ... they drove straight from there, straight here, and
disposed of the dogs in 30 seconds."

Authorities told WNCT-TV in Greenville, NC that they've discovered more
than 70 dead animals in the last month that may be connected to PETA.
WKTR-TV reported today that Cook and Hinkle are out on bond, "thanks to
the President of the People for the Ethical Treatment."

In a story that eerily resembles the current charges facing PETA's
employees, the Associated Press reported on April 8 that an additional
150 euthanized dogs were found in rural Virginia, apparently dumped in
trash bags near a riverbank. The Scott County, Virginia Sheriff is
investigating.

Don't have the original article, only the blog that this was posted.

PETA caught illegally dumping dead animals - Mombu the Pets Forum

Here's a statement from PETA founder Ingrid Newkirk:

In 2003 we learned for the first time that Ingrid Newkirk - tireless defender of animals - has another face. During the 1970's her chosen profession was "dog catcher" and killer. Newkirk unabashedly describes her zeal for killing in her own words: "I'd go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself...I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day." She was so good at it she rose through the ranks to become director of District of Columbia's high-kill pound where she reigned for some years. There, under her rule, untold thousands more died. INGRID NEWKIRK

Ingrid Newkirk - PETA's Shame
 
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Wait. This is news to people?

PETA is beyond crazy and this euthanasia thing has been known for years...
 
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Wait. This is news to people?

PETA is beyond crazy and this euthanasia thing has been known for years...


Yeah, but the previous poster, Specklebang is in denial that PETA would ever be involved in something like that. This person is either very young or has an idealistic view that PETA is here to protect all animals. Unfortunately, their idealism does not include animal welfare.
 
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