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    Re: Documents: PETA kills more than 95 percent of pets in its care

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    No, it shows that PETA does have reasons to euthanize animals, and I'm sure there are many more animals than those five that have been euthanized. If PETA has to euthanize 9 out of 10 animals, then that is unfortunate, and I don't really see how that makes them hypocritical. What are they supposed to do with all of these animals year-to-year?

    I don't have enough knowledge on the vet issue, so that's not been an argument I've decided to argue.
    They wouldn't so much be hypocrits if their followers weren't out there protesting animal shelters for having to put down animals. Of course animals have to be put down, for a wide variety of reasons. But when one part of your orginizaion is decrying it while another is performing it; you have perhaps a situation which could be considered hypocritical.
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    Re: Documents: PETA kills more than 95 percent of pets in its care

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Its simple really. Get a friggin vet that can fix something, fix it, give them to a no kill shelter. How hard is that? My dog is from a no-kill shelter. The people that run those things are the people that really care about animals. Not some glorified kooks who accept money from everywhere and try to put naked women on the street to get attention. Like I said, if this was an organization with an ounce of credibility, I would be much slower to judge.
    How many no-kill shelters do you think it'd take to support the mass influx of animals at PETA?

    As for vets, I don't know. I don't know what the cost would be to have all of these adept vets that'll take care of these animals. Are these vets going to be paid the same amount as normal veterinarians?

    Don't get me wrong—I'm very skeptical of PETA. That doesn't mean I'll totally overlook any good aspects of the organization. They do need to get their act together, which I doubt will happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    (1) They wouldn't so much be hypocrits if their followers weren't out there protesting animal shelters for having to put down animals. Of course animals have to be put down, for a wide variety of reasons. But when one part of your orginizaion is decrying it while another is performing it; you have perhaps a situation which could be considered hypocritical.
    (1) That is pretty silly of them. They should know that PETA euthanizes animals, thus they shouldn't moan when other animal shelters do so.

    You're right on that point. Those PETA members, imho, need to get a clue.

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    Re: Documents: PETA kills more than 95 percent of pets in its care

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    You have to admit, a .5 in 10 ratio is pretty garbage. To use a PETA argument, if these were people we'd shut down the hospital in about 15 minutes with those stats.
    And a place that took in termanally ill patients woulld have a 100 % mortality rate. Sounds bad outside of context.
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    Re: Documents: PETA kills more than 95 percent of pets in its care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And a place that took in termanally ill patients woulld have a 100 % mortality rate. Sounds bad outside of context.
    Good counterpoint. I will concede that if all they took in was terminally ill animals, it would exonerate them of their high mortality rate. This brings me to the other point I made though. PETA is so extreme and has pushed themselves so far to the fringe that no one is going to believe them when they say that most of their animals need to be put down. Personally, I believe PETA would say anything to keep the money flowing. Color me skeptical.
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    Re: Documents: PETA kills more than 95 percent of pets in its care

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    How many no-kill shelters do you think it'd take to support the mass influx of animals at PETA?

    As for vets, I don't know. I don't know what the cost would be to have all of these adept vets that'll take care of these animals. Are these vets going to be paid the same amount as normal veterinarians?

    Don't get me wrong—I'm very skeptical of PETA. That doesn't mean I'll totally overlook any good aspects of the organization. They do need to get their act together, which I doubt will happen.
    I don't believe they would have to be special vets or anything. Just competent ones lol. There are no-kill shelters all over the place man. Maybe PETA should stop running these naked ads and start up some shelters.
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    Re: Documents: PETA kills more than 95 percent of pets in its care

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Good counterpoint. I will concede that if all they took in was terminally ill animals, it would exonerate them of their high mortality rate. This brings me to the other point I made though. PETA is so extreme and has pushed themselves so far to the fringe that no one is going to believe them when they say that most of their animals need to be put down. Personally, I believe PETA would say anything to keep the money flowing. Color me skeptical.
    This I agree with.

    There have been numerous instances of stupidity and mock outrage from PETA that they've become a laughingstock, imho.

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    Re: Documents: PETA kills more than 95 percent of pets in its care

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    (1) I don't believe they would have to be special vets or anything. Just competent ones lol. (2) There are no-kill shelters all over the place man. (3) Maybe PETA should stop running these naked ads and start up some shelters.
    (1) I guess, but what makes you say they're not competent [I haven't been following the vet side of this issue].

    (2) If PETA were to stop euthanizing the 9 out of ten, save for the necessary euthanizations, I don't think there'd be enough no-kill shelters for all of them.

    (3) Agreed. They should follow what other no-kill shelters are doing and channel their resources there, while also not making themselves look like fools.

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    Re: Documents: PETA kills more than 95 percent of pets in its care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Which means it is not a widespread solution.

    Look, I love animals, and I am saddened at the thought of euthenizing animals. I would love to see the people who abused them euthenized first. However, sometimes it is just the least bad solution in a world with limited resources and too many animals.
    The worst cases require experienced people like this. Some cases aren't like that though. And even though it isn't a ubiquitous solution, it would certainly help. I'm just saying that people could be a lot better educated. I think many dogs that are returned to shelters could have been kept if the owners had a better education about dog behavior and psychology.
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    Re: Documents: PETA kills more than 95 percent of pets in its care

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    This I agree with.

    There have been numerous instances of stupidity and mock outrage from PETA that they've become a laughingstock, imho.
    I couldn't agree more. Nobody is for the ethical treatment of animals more than me but this group has become so radical that it's impossible to take them serious.

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    Re: Documents: PETA kills more than 95 percent of pets in its care

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    He's an animal hoarder.
    I don't think what he does fits the spirit of the term "hoarder".
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