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    Re: Gingrich Slams Obama for Koran Apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    What I fail to understand is why everybody on the left cares so much. Who cares what people in other countries think of us. Let the military do their job. Support the troops.

    I don't even care what people in THIS country think of me. Do you think I give a rat's ass what some goat herders in Afghanistan think about our military?
    Mainly because those herders are bound to strap bombs to their chest and blow themselves the **** up to try and kill our troops.
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    Re: Gingrich Slams Obama for Koran Apology

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    Mainly because those herders are bound to strap bombs to their chest and blow themselves the **** up to try and kill our troops.
    You mean like this? Taliban claims responsibility for bomb attack, poisoning in Afghanistan - CNN.com

    This story dropped 20 minutes ago on CNN. A lot of good that apology did us.

    No Afghan has apologized for the killing of 2 American soldiers by an Afghan soldier. An Afghan soldier likely paid for, trained, and equipped by the USA. Our President has not even asked for an apology.

    What you have is a deliberate fomenting of religious extremism that wouldn't apply to Muslims doing it to each other. Take Syria, where Assad has bombed whatever he needs to bomb. Where is the outrage?

    Look around the region. Churches get burned in Nigeria, has anyone apologized? Churches are burned in Egypt. Has anyone apologized? In Malaysia, churches are burned. Where is that apology?

    Take Iraq. 1,200,000 Christians lived there when we arrived... today 700,000 have left the country due to persecution. Has anyone apologized?

    There is a one-sided traffic in outrage which we not only tolerate, but help enable.

    Is this a one-sided game, where we are always supposed to be the ones on defense?

    This is a two-way street. What Obama should have done is hold a joint appearance with President Karzai, where Karzai apologized for the killing of American soldiers, and Obama apologized for the burning of the Koran. That would have made a lot of us feel better about this.

    Obama needs to demand some respect. These are troops serving under Obama as Commander-in-Chief. He owes them some protection.

    This is war. It's not an orderly and neat process. We have a lot of young men and women out there doing the best they can. It's an unfortunate tendency Obama has of always assuming it's the Americans who made a mistake, it's the Americans who need to be apologized for.

    Stand up for our troops, Obama.
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    Re: Gingrich Slams Obama for Koran Apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I wasn't aware this was a popularity contest. I was under the impression we had a job to do... you know.... like strategic objectives and stuff.
    The thread is about Gingrich criticizing Obama. Gingrich wants to be elected President, and that part of this story is very much a popularity contest.


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    Re: Gingrich Slams Obama for Koran Apology

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The thread is about Gingrich criticizing Obama. Gingrich wants to be elected President, and that part of this story is very much a popularity contest.
    I was responding to a post claiming we should leave Afghanistan because our presence is unpopular with the Afghan people.

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    Re: Gingrich Slams Obama for Koran Apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I was responding to a post claiming we should leave Afghanistan because our presence is unpopular with the Afghan people.
    Well eventually we should leave if the Afghans don't want us. Wasn't the whole point of the exercise to build a stable state in Afghanistan?


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    Re: Gingrich Slams Obama for Koran Apology

    Perhaps I am naive, but I find it rather ignorant to believe I have a better understanding of the complexities involved in our worldwide dealings than the man (and his advisers), we have charged with representing our collective interests overseas. For Mr. Gingrich to criticize these dealings is to me the very example of ignorant thought I would use to disqualify him from ever holding the office he is debasing.

    It would seem we have fallen into a pattern in our politics which I see as detrimental to progress...Rather than put energy into solving our many problems, we instead attack those who are actually trying, in an attempt to get into the very position of power to fix stuff...then expecting the "Other Side" to play nice and turn the other cheek.

    Anyone remember Gingrich vs. Clinton...Followed by Gingrich vs. Everyone else?

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    Re: Gingrich Slams Obama for Koran Apology

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well eventually we should leave if the Afghans don't want us. Wasn't the whole point of the exercise to build a stable state in Afghanistan?
    From Wiki, our stated goal was "dismantling the al-Qaeda terrorist organization and ending its use of Afghanistan as a base. The United States also said that it would remove the Taliban regime from power and create a viable democratic state."

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    Re: Gingrich Slams Obama for Koran Apology

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well eventually we should leave if the Afghans don't want us. Wasn't the whole point of the exercise to build a stable state in Afghanistan?
    Anyone that thinks we will "Leave a stable Afghanistan"...might take a look at History, both ancient and recent. Then scratch their heads in wonder, at why we ever thought we would be different.

    "The story of Afghanistan is in so many ways a very tragic one. Afghanistan is one of the most impoverished nations of the world. It is one of the most war-torn, most ravaged, and most beleaguered of nations. It is a nation that has been beset by invasion, external pressure and internal upheaval since before the time of Alexander the Great. Its people are a people who have endured more than most of us can ever imagine. In fact, for many Afghanis, all that has changed in the last one thousand years are the weapons which have been used against so many of them. It is therefore with great sadness and respect that I tell the story of Afghanistan."

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    Re: Gingrich Slams Obama for Koran Apology

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Anyone that thinks we will "Leave a stable Afghanistan"...might take a look at History, both ancient and recent. Then scratch their heads in wonder, at why we ever thought we would be different.

    "The story of Afghanistan is in so many ways a very tragic one. Afghanistan is one of the most impoverished nations of the world. It is one of the most war-torn, most ravaged, and most beleaguered of nations. It is a nation that has been beset by invasion, external pressure and internal upheaval since before the time of Alexander the Great. Its people are a people who have endured more than most of us can ever imagine. In fact, for many Afghanis, all that has changed in the last one thousand years are the weapons which have been used against so many of them. It is therefore with great sadness and respect that I tell the story of Afghanistan."

    Afghanistan History
    What a depressing history book. Those people need to be more cheerful. No wonder they're all out suicide bombing each other.

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    Re: Gingrich Slams Obama for Koran Apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    well, for once, i actually agree with Newt.
    the President should have backed up the military in their actions.... their actions were not wrong or incorrect.
    the President should have explained why the actions were not correct instead of immediately going for the apology.

    an apology is tantamount to an admission of guilt.. and i'm sorry, but burning those korans was not wrong...
    the prisoners had already defiled those holy books ..this is something the president should have stated clearly and unequivocally.... he instead took the road of apologizing for our boys actions that were not wrong.

    I totally agree.If anyone should apologize it should be the nut jobs religious extremist wackos out there rioting and killing people over burnt pieces of paper and the terrorist sympathizers turning this mole hill into a mountain. The elected officials represents their constituents ,so when the president apologizes it is the same as forcing the American people to apologize.
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