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    Re: Obama doesn't accept responsibility for gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Hussein Obama is 3 years into his term and does not accept responsibilty for anything except killing OBL which he had very little to do with. Some have said he did not even know it happened until after the fact.
    Oh wow, you called him Hussein Obama. You are a perfect example of a pug who has zero respect for the office of president. What a class act. Hussein Obama has accomplished more in his life time then you will ever dream of. This man is your president and will be for another 4 years, better get used to it :/
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    Re: Obama doesn't accept responsibility for gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    I love how republicans cry for free market, but as soon as free market sky-rockets gas prices, its Obama's fault. He's a socialist remember? Anti-free market policies will save us from this crisis.
    Gas prices skyrocketing as a result of government policies that either are passed with utter disregard for the possibility that they may cause this effort, or worse, with the specific intent of causing this effect, have little to do with a free market.
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    Re: Obama doesn't accept responsibility for gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Gas prices skyrocketing as a result of government policies that either are passed with utter disregard for the possibility that they may cause this effort, or worse, with the specific intent of causing this effect, have little to do with a free market.
    So you are for removing Iranian oil sanctions then?
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    Re: Obama doesn't accept responsibility for gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The price would fall. The more Iranian oil that goes to China, the less China buys up oil from everywhere else. If that supply is cut off, China buys more on the world market driving the price of oil from other countries.
    I don't know if that's true. China is squeezing Iran on the price. While you are right that China will reduce its demand from the rest of the world supply, the rest of the world is now pricing oil without Iran. So in that aspect, prices are rising independent of China's actions. Furthmore, China still needs to buy oil from non-Iranian sources. That's a hard calculation to see if sole sourcing to China will actually negate the price impact of a total reduction in available free supply.
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    Re: Obama doesn't accept responsibility for gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Silver says he has data going back to 1948. If you prefer to call than not much - so be it.

    You can draw any conclusion you want to - there is stuff on either side to do so. Yup -Obama is getting blamed. And the same people would blame him for a Martian invasion of the West Coast, demons rising from Hell in Central Park, or an earthquake destroying Israel.

    Big surprise there huh?

    As far as Nate Silver and I getting a clue - I will bet on Silver and his analysis most times. The guy is one of the sharpest knives in the drawer.
    As far as clues go, here is another. I'm talking about "blame" with you, while talking about what it means with regard to the election in the larger sense. Specifically with regard to your comments, I once again point you to the "blame" thingy. Hence the reason I keep using flash cards word like blame. Glad to see you agree with me, otherwise as I have already stated time will tell. If you feel the deep burning desire to call that results are inconclusive more power to you. Also, the reason I stated that Nate said something is because in your link, Nate said something about his raw data. There was not as much of it as he might like, despite your claim he has it all going back 1948. I admit after a read through of the thread, I'm clueless how you arrived at the conclusion I was saying something other than exactly what I have said to you repeatedly. I bet Nate agrees with me too, whomever the president is he gets the blame for high gas prices. Booney for you that you realize I was right all along but not so booney for you that you could not follow the plainly printed English you were replying to.

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    Re: Obama doesn't accept responsibility for gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    I love how republicans cry for free market, but as soon as free market sky-rockets gas prices, its Obama's fault. He's a socialist remember? Anti-free market policies will save us from this crisis.
    The free market is not causing the rising prices. Prices are only rising because the Fed has pumped so much money into the system. If we had a free market, many of those who are bidding up prices would have been bankrupt.

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    Re: Obama doesn't accept responsibility for gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    So you are for removing Iranian oil sanctions then?
    I'm not.

    I'm for removing sanctions against our own domestic oil producers.
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    Re: Obama doesn't accept responsibility for gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    As far as clues go, here is another. I'm talking about "blame" with you, while talking about what it means with regard to the election in the larger sense. Specifically with regard to your comments, I once again point you to the "blame" thingy. Hence the reason I keep using flash cards word like blame. Glad to see you agree with me, otherwise as I have already stated time will tell. If you feel the deep burning desire to call that results are inconclusive more power to you. Also, the reason I stated that Nate said something is because in your link, Nate said something about his raw data. There was not as much of it as he might like, despite your claim he has it all going back 1948. I admit after a read through of the thread, I'm clueless how you arrived at the conclusion I was saying something other than exactly what I have said to you repeatedly. I bet Nate agrees with me too, whomever the president is he gets the blame for high gas prices. Booney for you that you realize I was right all along but not so booney for you that you could not follow the plainly printed English you were replying to.
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    Re: Obama doesn't accept responsibility for gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Actually Obama approved 60 new Deepwater drilling permits in the Gulf of Mexico last fall.

    The Saudis have increased production to protect both the dollar and supply in EVERY geopolitical crisis.
    Which is less than before the BP spill and over a two year period is nearly half of the previous pace.
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    Re: Obama doesn't accept responsibility for gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I never cease to be amazed how some here are so fragile that they must constantly tell the world how they were right and even the people who took exception to something they said now agree that they were right all along.

    We should have a special category on websites like this wehre for extra money you can get a referee shirt to decide who wins arguments that one is involved in.
    And I never cease to be amazed at how some here can't follow a printed conversation or grasp what the English in front of them says. Sorry you needed me to remind you what was actually being discussed and what your link actually said. Try to keep up next time and you won't need to dream up special categories and refs shirts.

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