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    Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    State Rep. Al McAffrey tonight won a special election for a seat in the Oklahoma State Senate, becoming the chamberís first openly gay member.
    I think that Hell just froze over.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I think that Hell just froze over.

    Article is here.
    But will he be able to tackle Oklahoma's endemic flying pig problem?

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I think that Hell just froze over.

    Article is here.
    What the...? How in the world did that happen in Oklahoma?
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    What the...? How in the world did that happen in Oklahoma?
    The times they are a-changin'...

    Good for OK.

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Honestly, knowing how bat **** crazy Oklahomans are I wouldn't be at all surprised if the motivations were more sinister...but on the off chance that OK is becoming more accepting and less insane I'll say good on 'em.
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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    The times they are a-changin'...

    Good for OK.
    Tell that to the Roman Empire, oh wait! We can't! Haven't you noticed that when countries become secular, they die? Our country was founding on Judeo-Christian values, and now we are rejecting them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    Tell that to the Roman Empire, oh wait! We can't! Haven't you noticed that when countries become secular, they die? Our country was founding on Judeo-Christian values, and now we are rejecting them.
    Rome didn't become secular, they became Christian.

    Empires die. Secularist beliefs have little bearing on that. Most empires have lasted from 200 to 400 years, max, before they've collapsed and been replaced by another. Our empire will crumble, too.
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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    Tell that to the Roman Empire, oh wait! We can't! Haven't you noticed that when countries become secular, they die? Our country was founding on Judeo-Christian values, and now we are rejecting them.
    Your point is that the Roman Empire died because it became Christian?

    Generally, the "founding fathers" were Unitarians. The Unitarian Church was very large back then and came to be seen as the religion of the intellectuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Rome didn't become secular, they became Christian.

    Empires die. Secularist beliefs have little bearing on that. Most empires have lasted from 200 to 400 years, max, before they've collapsed and been replaced by another. Our empire will crumble, too.
    Rome was dying, then they became christian, then secularism came again and destroyed them. Relativism, and Secularism, are deadly.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    Rome was dying, then they became christian, then secularism came again and destroyed them. Relativism, and Secularism, are deadly.
    No, you are wrong.
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