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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    According to whom? Christians? Before they realized how utterly stupid their policy was, they didn't even allow marriage amongst Christian followers. Original Christians were meant to be hermits, aescetics, and 100% celibate. One day a guy smarter than the rest said, "wait a second. How are we going to take over ze world if we don't find a faster, more efficient way of building our following?! I guess we'll have to let 'em screw and procreate...but we'll have to limit when and how they can screw."

    It was only logical progression from there to limit marriage to men and women, since they're the only ones who can screw each other to a produce children. Christians didn't invent the construct of marriage; it predates the creation of Christianty by almost 2,000 years. Further, most civilizations prior to Christianity allowed or embraced homosexual relationships.
    Actually this isn't accurate, celibacy didn't become part of church doctrine until much later, and the thought of marriage being between one man, and one woman, and the whole sacrament of marriage thing didn't come around until well after Charlemagne.
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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

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    Actually this isn't accurate, celibacy didn't become part of church doctrine until much later, and the thought of marriage being between one man, and one woman, and the whole sacrament of marriage thing didn't come around until well after Charlemagne.
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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    No, you are wrong.

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Demonstrably untrue in nine states (thus far).
    Don't forget all the other countries that have legalized SSM also....

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    Prove it! Then again, you can't even defend evolution.
    Rome adopted Christianity in 313 A.D.
    Rome fell in 476 A.D.

    Now I know it's hard, but I'm gonna have to ask you to do a little math and figure out which came first.

    Is that okay for your little conservative mind?
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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Rome adopted Christianity in 313 A.D.
    Rome fell in 476 A.D.

    Now I know it's hard, but I'm gonna have to ask you to do a little math and figure out which came first.

    Is that okay for your little conservative mind?
    Christianity had nothing to do with the fall of Rome. Greedy little chits that couldn't work together was the reason that Rome fell. They just had to have more land.
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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    That was something good, marriage isn't meant to be for a man and man, or woman and woman.
    That is according to RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, and before you regurgitate that crap again about America being founded on Judeo-Christian values, I present exhibit A as evidence that you are wrong.

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Christianity had nothing to do with the fall of Rome. Greedy little chits that couldn't work together was the reason that Rome fell. They just had to have more land.

    I wasn't saying Christianity caused the fall of Rome. Amigo claimed that Rome had turned Secular, and caused it to fall.

    I was pointing out that Rome had adopted Christianity, and it had fallen while it was still Christian.
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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    I wasn't saying Christianity caused the fall of Rome. Amigo claimed that Rome had turned Secular, and caused it to fall.

    I was pointing out that Rome had adopted Christianity, and it had fallen while it was still Christian.
    Then I apologize. In my defense though your post did come off that way.
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