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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

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    So gay people are evil?
    The sin is evil, and when we as a country accept the evil of homosexuality as a norm, we accept incest, and other perverted acts as a norm.
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    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    The sin is evil, and when we as a country accept the evil of homosexuality as a norm, we accept incest, and other perverted acts as a norm.
    incest has nothing to do with homosexuality. and YOU believe it's a sin, fine. don't practice it. but don't put your religious beliefs on others.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

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    There's FAR more arguments as to the fall of the Roman Empire than simply secularism.

    The enormous size and the disconnect that caused throughout the Empire being a far more prime suspect for its ultimate demise than rejecting their original adherance to religious beliefs.

    If there's a lesson to be learned from the Roman Empire in regards to dangers as it relates to America today, imho it would be the dangers of attempting to intigrate multiple significantly entrenched seperate cultures under one governmental umbrella rather than attempting to establish a baseline cultural link throughout all of the various peoples who are under the paritcular government. When you don't have that common cultural link then you create significant challenges in terms of government and cohesion of a country.
    A steady succession of completely insane emperors didn't help.

    As for the cultural integration of the civilizations they conquered, the Romans were actually experts in this area. Being polytheistic (at first) it was easy for them to recognize other gods as being their own in disguise. As long as the new civilizations paid tithes and gave their sons to the army, all was good. For this reason their expansion suffered relatively little backlash. The backlash that occurred due to corruption and the sheer impracticality of controlling an area so fantastically large without modern communication was another matter altogether.

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    Tell that to the Roman Empire, oh wait! We can't! Haven't you noticed that when countries become secular, they die? Our country was founding on Judeo-Christian values, and now we are rejecting them.
    I'd be fascinated to know where you heard that the Roman Empire became more secular.

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    The sin is evil, and when we as a country accept the evil of homosexuality as a norm, we accept incest, and other perverted acts as a norm.
    Not everyone believes it is a sin, so there's that point. Secondly homosexuality has nothing to do with incest or any perverted act, it's ignorant to say otherwise.

    And lastly it is accepted as a norm, at least with my generation, and thank God for that.
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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

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    Not everyone believes it is a sin, so there's that point. Secondly homosexuality has nothing to do with incest or any perverted act, it's ignorant to say otherwise.

    And lastly it is accepted as a norm, at least with my generation, and thank God for that.
    And because we accept it as a norm, we are going against the values of which this country was founded on. You may practice homosexuality if you want, but you may not get married, because marriage is to be between a man and a woman.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    And because we accept it as a norm, we are going against the values of which this country was founded on. You may practice homosexuality if you want, but you may not get married, because marriage is to be between a man and a woman.

    Demonstrably untrue in nine states (thus far).

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

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    And because we accept it as a norm, we are going against the values of which this country was founded on. You may practice homosexuality if you want, but you may not get married, because marriage is to be between a man and a woman.
    Believing that blacks aren't lesser people than whites is going against the norms of our country, but somehow THAT change in cultural norms somehow didn't destroy the country.

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Every gay Republican I'm familiar with is more hardcore conservative than the straight ones. I think they work hard to overcompensate and prove themselves.

    Anyway, it just goes to show that it takes all kinds.

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    Re: Oklahoma elects first openly gay state senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    The sin is evil, and when we as a country accept the evil of homosexuality as a norm, we accept incest, and other perverted acts as a norm.
    Divorce and premarital sex are sins too. Are you going to call for the outlawing of divorce any time soon?
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