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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    This puts our spending in perspective with what the rest of the world spends on military:
    This puts our spending in perspective with our own federal budget:

    Defense Outlays.JPGHHS Spending.JPGDefense vs Healthcare.JPG
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    This puts our spending in perspective with our own federal budget:

    Defense Outlays.JPGHHS Spending.JPGDefense vs Healthcare.JPG

    So obviously our current health care ain't doing so great financially.....what do you propose we do about that?

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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So obviously our current health care ain't doing so great financially.....what do you propose we do about that?
    Ain't that the trillion dollar question. How about something that makes that line go down?
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    Ain't that the trillion dollar question. How about something that makes that line go down?
    And your suggestion is?

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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Your mistake is assuming the average household is perpetual like a nation state is or a rockefeler household is.
    because..... government can print it's own money? because government has the ability to sell it's children into hoc whereas parents do not? what good thing can the government do that is not reflectable in the budget he gave?

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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And your suggestion is?
    perhaps we could start with something that has already been proven to work?

    I mean, there have been plenty of models that have demonstrated the one common general theme (allow health insurance to act like insurance and force people to cover non-catastrophic / regular costs themselves at the point of purchase); generally, let a market develop. I've posted (before) a whole host of programs that have demonstrated precisely that cost-cutting ability.

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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We couldn't even maintain a modern navy on that, and just when China is building up you want to cut our defenses. What did you do, take an oath to defend the Chinese constitution?
    If we cut back to $250 billion we would still be spending more than twice as much as China. But we'll only do that when people decide to get serious about debt reduction.
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Until they win control of the government again, at which point it'll be the same "spend, spend, spend" that we saw the first few years of the Bush administration. Not that the Democrats did anything to change that, but this idea that Republicans will balance the budget is laughable.
    Romney has already promised big new tax cuts for the rich and increased military spending. That just sounds to me like the Bush Administration all over again.
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    This puts our spending in perspective with our own federal budget:
    Because military threats to the US are proportional to our GDP??? That's not the way it works. We just need to spend more then the next biggest military spender. For the last decade we have spent almost as much as the rest of the world COMBINED!!!

    We will never reduce our debt at this rate.
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Because military threats to the US are proportional to our GDP??? That's not the way it works. We just need to spend more then the next biggest military spender. For the last decade we have spent almost as much as the rest of the world COMBINED!!!

    We will never reduce our debt at this rate.
    Dude, I am so sick of hearing you complain about military costs. The DOD is THE ONLY department of the friggin gov't that has actually cut its costs and presented a plan to be fiscally responsible. Whats your excuse for the FACT that the DOD has just proposed ANOTHER budget that cuts more spending while your POTUS wants to spend 1.3 Trillion dollars on the hope (he loves that word) that it will come back due to some huge economic turn around that he thinks is going to happen? Or, like I posted earlier, at least he put something on the table! Your Dem controlled Senate can't even tell us what they're spending! They have proposed no budget since 2009. We don't even know what our gov't is doing right now. Great transparency there. Not to mention that its criminal. But of course, you and people like you would say it was political posturing if the House brought charges against Harry Reid and the Senate for breaking the law. Its time for you and libs like you to pull your head out of your butt and recongnize the fact that Obama is trying to get re-elected and he doesn't care what it will cost to get him there.
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