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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So was the 2012 Obama budget before getting voted down 97-0. What is your point? Want to wager how many votes this budget will get if it even gets to the Senate for debate? Why do you buy the Obama rhetoric in the face of the very poor economic results. Do you really support the nanny state?

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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

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    So was the 2012 Obama budget before getting voted down 97-0. What is your point? Want to wager how many votes this budget will get if it even gets to the Senate for debate? Why do you buy the Obama rhetoric in the face of the very poor economic results. Do you really support the nanny state?
    As I've tried to tell you, President's budgets never go to the floor for a vote.

    A I prefer an economy that is getting better, rather than getting worse as it was under Republican rule, I choose the Democrats.
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As I've tried to tell you, President's budgets never go to the floor for a vote.

    A I prefer an economy that is getting better, rather than getting worse as it was under Republican rule, I choose the Democrats.
    Does that mean you supported Bush from 2003-2008 when the economy was booming and the Stock market went over 14000? Or how about when the GDP Grew from 9.9 trillion to 14.4 trillion? Guess you think like all liberals that a 1.8% GDP growth in 2011 is better than the 3.6% GDP growth of 2010?

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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Does that mean you supported Bush from 2003-2008 when the economy was booming and the Stock market went over 14000? Or how about when the GDP Grew from 9.9 trillion to 14.4 trillion? Guess you think like all liberals that a 1.8% GDP growth in 2011 is better than the 3.6% GDP growth of 2010?

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! You are too funny!
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    NO ONE IS SUGGESTING $20 AN HOUR.
    That's what it'd take to be a "living wage" where I'm from.

    We are talking about a a couple more bucks an hour for the full time manual labor jobs that exist so that a person can have subsistence to survive without taxpayer assistance.
    A couple bucks above minimum wage doesn't really cut it. Prices adjust, jobs become obsolete, and we're back at square one.

    The only other options are welfare or crime. I prefer someone working for a living, but that's just me........................
    Welfare shouldn't be an option, and crime never is.

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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    NO ONE IS SUGGESTING $20 AN HOUR.
    "No one"? Really?

    Forum Post: Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! | OccupyWallSt.org

    Someone did:

    Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
    "Official" ratified policy or not, someone suggested it.
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    That's what it'd take to be a "living wage" where I'm from.
    Where are you from? You do know that states have the right to increase the federal minimum wage if living expenses are higher in their state, right?



    A couple bucks above minimum wage doesn't really cut it. Prices adjust, jobs become obsolete, and we're back at square one.
    You know that private job growth that Perry like to brag about? If you do a little searching, you will learn that most of that private job growth was minimum wage jobs. The fact is there are more people than there are jobs which means even people with skills and education are forced to take minimum wage jobs which require taxpayer assistance to bring up to subsistence level.

    For myself, I'm no longer interested in subsidizing the cost of your hamburger with my tax dollars.


    Welfare shouldn't be an option, and crime never is.
    I'll have to see your source that leads you to believe there is no crime.

    So what do you see as a 4th option to working for a living, welfare, or crime?
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post


    Welfare shouldn't be an option, and crime never is.

    Crime is an option for the starving.

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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    "No one"? Really?

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    Someone did:



    "Official" ratified policy or not, someone suggested it.

    Good for you, you found one person to back you up!
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You haven't proven any facts yet, but congratulations on your wise choice in not voting for Romney!
    NBC Politics - New defense cuts threaten bases, shipyards DEFENSE CUTS
    Sound Politics: No budget - Take another year off, Senator Cantwell NO BUDGET
    Budget Plan For 2013 Released By Obama (FULL TEXT) OBAMA SPENDING
    And two of those stories are from left leaning news sources. Of course, you'll avoid it again even though this proof I have provided was not needed. You knew this stuff, as do all libs. You just choose not to pay attention because it fits into your perfect, big gov't world. Just admit you like the gov't telling you what to do, and we'll move on. Admit you like your toilet flush to be regulated, your light bulbs, type of car you drive, healthcare, retirement, food you eat, etc. Admit you like someone looking out for you in those realms and telling you what's best instead of making your own choices. Admit your an automaton and we'll move on.
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