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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    Why dont do you actually read the chart? It's percentage of our spending NOT our GDP. When looking at the size of our budget percentage of Total Outlays is VERY relevant, and you can see defense as a total percentage of the budget is at all time lows. What's your obsession with what other countries are spending? We should make our fiscal and defense decision based on what other countries are doing? No, why don't we look at the budget as it stands and realize we can cut defense all we want and it still won't make a lick of difference.
    Threats are not proportional to our spending either. It is silly to talk of debt reduction as long was we continue with our most wasteful spending.
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Why do you think no Conservative President has ever cut the budget? Why do they always pass tax cuts and never touch the underlying spending? Because it's not that simple. Because they know that cutting government spending is generally contractive economic policy and causing a recession as President is the sure fire way to get voted out.
    It has nothing to do with that. They dont cut spending because they dont want to take the political heat that taking handouts out of the hands of the eternally needy would bring.

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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    It has nothing to do with that. They dont cut spending because they dont want to take the political heat that taking handouts out of the hands of the eternally needy would bring.
    If that were the case, then conservatives would support a living wage and UHC to reduce the welfare roles.
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Bitching about the debt, without addressing the true cause = Emotional ploy.
    The true cause according to you is simply Republican policy. So there is no arguing with you, because if we don't go along with your partisan fairytale, our argument is automatically reduced to an emotional ploy, or so goes your fairytale.


    Romney only offers increased spending and more tax cuts for the rich = more debt!
    So he's very similar to Obama then?

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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If that were the case, then conservatives would support a living wage and UHC to reduce the welfare roles.
    That would just be trading one welfare scheme for another.

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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    That would just be trading one welfare scheme for another.
    Since when did working for a living become a welfare scheme?

    People have only 3 choices for survival:

    *Working for a living

    *Taxpayer supported Welfare assistance

    *Crime


    Which do you prefer?
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So ... you seem to be arguing against defense cuts, and yet you support Ron Paul who would absolutely decimate defense spending -- to a degree far in excess of anything Obama has proposed. What's up with that?
    Who said I supported Ron Paul? I didn't
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Why do you think no Conservative President has ever cut the budget? Why do they always pass tax cuts and never touch the underlying spending? Because it's not that simple. Because they know that cutting government spending is generally contractive economic policy and causing a recession as President is the sure fire way to get voted out.
    The fact of the matter is this. The gov't is way too involved in the economy anyway. Whether it be playing favorites by penalizing companies that go overseas, floundering on the Keystone Pipeline, or attempting to get the middle class hooked on handouts by giving them mortgage relief and student loan bailouts. To wean off the gov't is going to hurt, no doubt about it. As it should. Its our fault we're in the position to begin with. We kept re-electing these big government idiots. There's no one to point the finger at but ourselves, our parents, and our grandparents.
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Dude, I am so sick of hearing you complain about military costs. The DOD is THE ONLY department of the friggin gov't that has actually cut its costs and presented a plan to be fiscally responsible. Whats your excuse for the FACT that the DOD has just proposed ANOTHER budget that cuts more spending while your POTUS wants to spend 1.3 Trillion dollars on the hope (he loves that word) that it will come back due to some huge economic turn around that he thinks is going to happen? Or, like I posted earlier, at least he put something on the table! Your Dem controlled Senate can't even tell us what they're spending! They have proposed no budget since 2009. We don't even know what our gov't is doing right now. Great transparency there. Not to mention that its criminal. But of course, you and people like you would say it was political posturing if the House brought charges against Harry Reid and the Senate for breaking the law. Its time for you and libs like you to pull your head out of your butt and recongnize the fact that Obama is trying to get re-elected and he doesn't care what it will cost to get him there.
    So, nothing for that Catawba? Just gonna act like I didn't say it because you have nothing to say back huh?
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    Re: Obama Makes New Budget Sales Pitch; GOP Strikes Back

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    So, nothing for that Catawba? Just gonna act like I didn't say it because you have nothing to say back huh?
    You are entitled to your opinion. I'm more interested in facts, sorry!
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