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    Re: Girl Beaten Unconscious Over Bus Seat: Cops

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    Of course children are something that we mold. When you have kids you will understand. Until then I can see that explaining it to you will be a waste of time.
    If you want a mini-me then "mold" away. If you want to raise an individual let them discover who they are.

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    Re: Girl Beaten Unconscious Over Bus Seat: Cops

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    If you want a mini-me then "mold" away. If you want to raise an individual let them discover who they are.
    That is obviously not how it works... the two most assuredly overlap. Perhaps you look at things a little to black and white?
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    Re: Girl Beaten Unconscious Over Bus Seat: Cops

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    There may be more to this incident than the information provided in the OP. What was the motive behind the beating? Did she do something that hurt some other students?
    This may help...

    Ocala School Bus Fight

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    Re: Girl Beaten Unconscious Over Bus Seat: Cops

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Why would that matter? This is what I don't get. A crime is a crime is a crime. Abuse is abuse is abuse. Killing is killing is killing. ETC...
    Totally false. US soldiers kill thousands per year all over the world, and it's not a crime. Guantanamo inmates are abused daily, and it's not a crime.

    The relevant issue is not the legality of the act under US law, but rather its ethical nature. If the girl did something that significantly hurt other students, then her getting beaten back by others would be considered proportional retaliation which is ethical.

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    If she had hurt someone else then let it be addressed properly. There is no need to cause more violence.
    True, the students' actions were illogical (dumb), but if it was in retaliation for something else, it would still be considered fair, even if that amounts to nothing in the end.

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    Re: Girl Beaten Unconscious Over Bus Seat: Cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Why is supporting death for minors absurd. I asked you this and you only ranted. Care to debate or will you just continue to be a side show?
    One needle fits all, as we used to say...
    Do I have to respond to this? Are you serious?

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    Re: Girl Beaten Unconscious Over Bus Seat: Cops

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Do I have to respond to this? Are you serious?
    To the first one if you like... yes. The second I thought would pretty much be understood as an obvious joke.
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    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
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    Re: Girl Beaten Unconscious Over Bus Seat: Cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    To the first one if you like... yes. The second I thought would pretty much be understood as an obvious joke.
    OK....


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    Re: Girl Beaten Unconscious Over Bus Seat: Cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Adults cannot touch children and apparently most children know that these days. It would be a good idea to have an adult on each bus but as soon as the kids determined that the adult have no real power it wouldn't matter.
    This.

    Kids have been educating themselves for the past decade or two, not in school mind you, but on the internet. They've discovered that if an adult touches them, they can scream "rape or assault" and the adult would be the one hauled off. Kids have also learned, under the nurturing guidance of their clueless, doting parents, that those same parents will believe them over any adult who dares defame the little liar.

    This **** has to change. My god, a kid beaten unconscious with uniformed mall security watching from two feet away, and now this? It's unconscionable.

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    Re: Girl Beaten Unconscious Over Bus Seat: Cops

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    This.

    Kids have been educating themselves for the past decade or two, not in school mind you, but on the internet. They've discovered that if an adult touches them, they can scream "rape or assault" and the adult would be the one hauled off. Kids have also learned, under the nurturing guidance of their clueless, doting parents, that those same parents will believe them over any adult who dares defame the little liar.

    This **** has to change. My god, a kid beaten unconscious with uniformed mall security watching from two feet away, and now this? It's unconscionable.

    I beleive this has been going on for many years with a greater degree of frequency beginning in the 1960 or so.

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    Re: Girl Beaten Unconscious Over Bus Seat: Cops

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    This.

    Kids have been educating themselves for the past decade or two, not in school mind you, but on the internet. They've discovered that if an adult touches them, they can scream "rape or assault" and the adult would be the one hauled off. Kids have also learned, under the nurturing guidance of their clueless, doting parents, that those same parents will believe them over any adult who dares defame the little liar.

    This **** has to change. My god, a kid beaten unconscious with uniformed mall security watching from two feet away, and now this? It's unconscionable.
    You can touch kids in order to stop them from being hurt or hurting others. Kids can scream all they want and it gets them nothing. I have grabbed kids and even got one in a wrist lock to stop them from hurting others and the police were just fine with it. I agree that the stupid parents are a part of the problem though. I have been yelled at by mothers at the park when I told their kids to get off the slide so that the smaller kids could actually slide on the slide since the older kids (8 years old or so) were climbing up it or just sitting there and no 5 year old is gonna say anything to them. So I did. The older kids didn't care at all. They seemed a little shocked that a random parent was telling them what to do and expected compliance since the moms were sitting on the bench drinking coffee and not playing with their kids... but once the moms saw this they literally yelled at me. I calmly scolded the meanest mom quite firmly about parenting, neglect and allowing their kids to intimdate smaller kids and that shut the loudest one up. I was shocked in the long run though and still think about that incident almost 10 years on now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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