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    Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Report: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution | LifeNews.com

    A new report issued by the Inspector General (IG) for the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) reveals the Obama administration has spent over $23 million for activities in Kenya to influence voters there to support a new constitution that would allow virtually unlimited abortions.

    The nation currently protects women and unborn children from abortions, but a constitution voters will consider on August 4 would change the historic pro-life laws of the African nation.
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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    In summary, Obama used YOUR tax dollars to INTERVENE in another country to get them to CHANGE THEIR CONSTITUTION to allow abortion.

    This is the left, folks.

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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    This article is from July 19th, 2010.

    this whole thing was stupid then, and it's stupid now.

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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This article is from July 19th, 2010.

    this whole thing was stupid then, and it's stupid now.
    You find it irrelevant? I think a lot of people out there don't know about this and they deserve to know. Especially given what has transpired the last couple days with the Catholic Church and Obamacare.

    People need to know what Obama and the left are all about.

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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    He shouldn't have been spending money on a foreign law PR campaign which would in no way affect life in the United States or protection of US citizens in that foreign area. The subject matter of that campaign is otherwise irrelevant.
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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You find it irrelevant?
    Peter Grimm being dishonest? Shocking I tell you. Shocking. The Obama administration supported a new Kenyan constitution. What the new constitution actually changed were the authoritarian powers of the Kenyan president and created checks and balances to make the country's system far more democratic. This is what section 26* of the new constitution actually says (I remind you that it is identical to the previous Kenyan constitution):

    (1) Every person has the right to life.

    (2) The life of a person begins at conception.

    (3) A person shall not be deprived of life intentionally, except to the extent authorized by this Constitution or other written law.

    (4) Abortion is not permitted unless, in the opinion of a trained health professional, there is a need for emergency treatment, or the life or health of the mother is in danger, or if permitted by any other written law.
    Now to anybody more than two working braincells, that would make the Kenyan constitution far more restrictive than US abortion laws. Why? Because it defines where life begins and implies that the woman and fetus account for two persons. That's not enough for the right wing fringe because well, as we all know, they wont stop until we're all attending mass and paying tithes again. What the anti-choice fringe have done is turned an issue about democracy, into an issue about their ridiculous religious beliefs. Why am I not surprised that the American right is doing this? What's more surprising is that Obama actually supported far more restrictive abortion laws and yet they're still unhappy because 1) they have no idea what the new constitution was about and 2) they have no wish to understand what it was about.

    Don't let the facts stop you though Mr Grimm.
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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    If true, it's ridiculous that tax payer money is being used to influence legislative changes in foreign affairs.

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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Peter Grimm being dishonest? Shocking I tell you. Shocking. The Obama administration supported a new Kenyan constitution. What the new constitution actually changed were the authoritarian powers of the Kenyan president and created checks and balances to make the country's system far more democratic. This is what section 170 of the new constitution actually says (I remind you that it is identical to the previous Kenyan constitution):



    Now to anybody more than two working braincells, that would make the Kenyan constitution far more restrictive than US abortion laws. Don't let the facts stop you though Mr Grimm. In essence what the anti-choice fringe have done is turned an issue about democracy, into an issue about their ridiculous religious beliefs. Why am I not surprised that the American right is doing this?
    The issue for some including myself is not the pro life angle, it's the fact that tax payer money is being used to essentially lobby for legislative changes in foreign countries that have absolutely no impact in said tax payers everyday lives.

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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    If true, it's ridiculous that tax payer money is being used to influence legislative changes in foreign affairs.
    This.

    Even if you're not pro-life, we can at least agree that what Obama is doing here is way overstepping the bounds of what the Federal Government ought to be up to.

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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Peter Grimm being dishonest? Shocking I tell you. Shocking. The Obama administration supported a new Kenyan constitution. What the new constitution actually changed were the authoritarian powers of the Kenyan president and created checks and balances to make the country's system far more democratic. This is what section 26* of the new constitution actually says (I remind you that it is identical to the previous Kenyan constitution):



    Now to anybody more than two working braincells, that would make the Kenyan constitution far more restrictive than US abortion laws. Why? Because it defines where life begins and implies that the woman and fetus account for two persons. That's not enough for the right wing fringe because well, as we all know, they wont stop until we're all attending mass and paying tithes again. What the anti-choice fringe have done is turned an issue about democracy, into an issue about their ridiculous religious beliefs. Why am I not surprised that the American right is doing this? What's more surprising is that Obama actually supported far more restrictive abortion laws and yet they're still unhappy because 1) they have no idea what the new constitution was about and 2) they have no wish to understand what it was about.

    Don't let the facts stop you though Mr Grimm.
    Nice spin.

    We still paid $23 million dollars to influence the Kenyan constitution in a way that made it more pro-abortion than it was.

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