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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So the same stupid story that has been refuted multiple times here gets brought back up, and when it does, those looking for something to be outraged about still break out the same stupid arguments. I am shocked I say, just shocked. Seriously, this is a stupid story that has no basis in truth and those opposed to abortion rights are just making themselves look silly.
    LOL. Tell us what you really think!

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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Do a google search on 19 week and this isn't the only picture. I think the reason I posted it is obvious. People were joking around about a fetus like a piece of meat, and that was just to hold a mirror up to their face.

    People can do atrocious things when they don't have to look the problem in the face. A nation can put a million Jews in a concentration camp. The world can stand by while Darfur is in genocide. We can push a button and go to war, and people don't have to see any of the carnage.

    I want to see that movie "The Box" with Cameron Diaz. I think it's about that idea.
    A person can make a law saying that a woman should be forced to carry a pregnancy to term even though it's going to kill her because they don't have to look her in the face, they don't have to meet her husband, her children, her parents, her siblings, her friends. Terrible terrible things can be done, because people don't have to look at the face of the person they are killing.
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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Do a google search on 19 week and this isn't the only picture. I think the reason I posted it is obvious. People were joking around about a fetus like a piece of meat, and that was just to hold a mirror up to their face.

    People can do atrocious things when they don't have to look the problem in the face. A nation can put a million Jews in a concentration camp. The world can stand by while Darfur is in genocide. We can push a button and go to war, and people don't have to see any of the carnage.

    I want to see that movie "The Box" with Cameron Diaz. I think it's about that idea.

    And here is a born baby:

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    Pretty sad huh?

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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    LOL. Tell us what you really think!
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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Don't change the subject, we're talking about Kenya here, not the laws in the US. Also I'm saying that 99% of doctors are going to recommend the woman terminates a dangerous pregnancy, doesn't matter if they are "pro-life", a doctor is going to side with the patient they can see, this situation isn't about whether or not you agree with abortion or not, it's about saving the life of the mother. If you were pregnant, and your doctor told you there was an 80% chance of you dying because of the pregnancy, would you want him to force you carry it to term? I don't think so. Your opinion doesn't even give a passing thought about the welfare of the woman, it's all about the fetus, and that is just ****ed up.
    If I were pregnant, I would have some serious medical thing going on! And my girl would have to make an honest man out of me, that's for sure...

    On Kenya, my concern is that the 4th provision is unnecessary. A doctor could abort a child to save the mother without that provision. All it does is give a loophole for future laws and for a wider range of abortions to be practiced. It's like a foot wedged in the door, and now they can keep prying that door open because they have laid the legal groundwork to do so.

    I hope I answered your question with that.

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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    A person can make a law saying that a woman should be forced to carry a pregnancy to term even though it's going to kill her because they don't have to look her in the face, they don't have to meet her husband, her children, her parents, her siblings, her friends. Terrible terrible things can be done, because people don't have to look at the face of the person they are killing.
    Where is our disagreement here?

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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If I were pregnant, I would have some serious medical thing going on! And my girl would have to make an honest man out of me, that's for sure...

    On Kenya, my concern is that the 4th provision is unnecessary. A doctor could abort a child to save the mother without that provision. All it does is give a loophole for future laws and for a wider range of abortions to be practiced. It's like a foot wedged in the door, and now they can keep prying that door open because they have laid the legal groundwork to do so.

    I hope I answered your question with that.
    No, he couldn't, without that provision, that is illegal. It does not allow for any other type of abortion, it's idiotic to believe otherwise.
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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Where is our disagreement here?
    You want to deny that woman the right to life in order to be "anti-abortion"
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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And here is a born baby:

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    Pretty sad huh?
    That kid looks bugged out.

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    Re: Obama Has Spent $23 Million Backing Pro-Abortion Kenya Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No, he couldn't, without that provision, that is illegal. It does not allow for any other type of abortion, it's idiotic to believe otherwise.
    Dude...

    (1) Every person has the right to life.

    (2) The life of a person begins at conception.

    (3) A person shall not be deprived of life intentionally, except to the extent authorized by this Constitution or other written law.



    Alright, #1 and #3 would be enough to allow for abortion if it were going to save the mother's life. Otherwise, why don't they put a #5 in there for siamese twins? Sometimes, you have to separate them or both will die. So the doctor picks the strongest one. It's sad, but it happens. I don't see how that's any different from our hypothetical abortion case here.


    Now look at this...

    (4) Abortion is not permitted unless, in the opinion of a trained health professional, there is a need for emergency treatment, or the life or health of the mother is in danger, or if permitted by any other written law.

    So not only is it allowed when the life of the mother is in danger, but now also any case where a trained health professional (not even a doctor, could be just any nurse) sees the need for "emergency treatment" which is a vague term that can be bent any way a good lawyer wants to bend it.

    If that weren't enough, you also have the last bolded part, which allows for any law to be written in the future that explicitly allows other types of abortion, and sets no boundaries on it.

    So that's what I mean by jamming their foot in the door.
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