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US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constitutions

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Shall not infringe means I should be allowed to own any weapon without any infringements. If you wish for the 2nd amendment to have infringements there is an amendment process for that.

So you believe mentally ill people should be allowed to own nukes?
 
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But parliamentary systems can be ridiculously unstable, and in the current atmosphere, I suspect would be.

No, parliamentary systems aren't unstable. Countries that are unstable are unstable for other reasons - not because they use a parliament.

There have been presidential systems that are just as unstable, after all.
 
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But parliamentary systems can be ridiculously unstable, and in the current atmosphere, I suspect would be.
The UK has a parliamentary system. As does Australia, Japan, Germany, and Israel.

Venezuela has a presidential system. As does Uganda, Columbia, Iran, and Mexico.
 
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The UK has a parliamentary system. As does Australia, Japan, Germany, and Israel.

Venezuela has a presidential system. As does Uganda, Columbia, Iran, and Mexico.

Hey, here's a profoundly stupid comparison, probably as stupid as making too much of this photo:

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And it speaks to no constructive point concerning what I said.

Wherever you go, Karl, fail follows.
 
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No, parliamentary systems aren't unstable. Countries that are unstable are unstable for other reasons - not because they use a parliament.

I said they can be, not that they automatically are. The French and Italian experiences post-WWII show this, as well as some 19th-century British moments.
 
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Hey, here's a profoundly stupid comparison, probably as stupid as making too much of this photo:

It's just as stupid as your comparison of only presidential systems with stable governments to only parliamentary systems of unstable governments.
 
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I said they can be, not that they automatically are. The French and Italian experiences post-WWII show this, as well as some 19th-century British moments.

But, as Karl pointed out, presidential system can be unstable as well, such as the examples he gave.
 
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[...] Wherever you go, Karl, fail follows.


So... stop following me
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But, as Karl pointed out, presidential system can be unstable as well, such as the examples he gave.

Those examples were not, for the most part, unstable. Undesireable, sure, but then they don't resemble our government at all. (Which is one of the many reasons why his comparison was ridiculously stupid.) And I wouldn't even call Iran's system "presidential" anyway.

But I never said it couldn't be unstable (though our government is not). I do say that the mechanics of parliamentary system make it more likely that it will be, though.
 
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So... stop following me
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Following you? You quoted ME.

Oy vey.
 
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It's just as stupid as your comparison of only presidential systems with stable governments to only parliamentary systems of unstable governments.

Never said that. Not at all.

You were giving all the good points of parliamentary systems; I pointed out a not-so-good one.
 
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Egypt and the United States have different cultures, different religious leanings, different histories, different economies, different geographies. Those facts in and of themselves are enough to suggest that the Egyptian people should look elsewhere for guidance on the document which will define the structure of their government. The fact that our own hasn't exactly kept up with the times is just icing on the cake.
 
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And you're the sort of person who thinks that there's only one possible interpretation of the constitution: YOUR interpretation of the constitution.

You have the right to bear arms. You have two, presumably, attached at your shoulders. That right has never been infringed. Or maybe you are interpreting that arms means "weapons?" And not, say, literal arms? Or specifically firearms which most certainly would not include "any weapon," like you claim?

"Dee dee deer dat how do you know dat de bear arms weally means you own arms dee dee der instead of o o o of weapons dee dee der deerr".

Your post is so idiotic I will not waste my time responding to your post other than telling you how idiotic your post is.
 
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So which constitutional rights were squashed by the U.S. Supreme Court in the Brown decision? The right to forever condemn blacks to separate and unequal education system?

And Yeah, I'm sure those southern states would have jumped right on a Constitutional Amendment to do away with the 'separate but equal' garbage. Let's face it - you kinda like the 18th century approach to human rights and equality and anything done by the courts to bring the nation into the light will be frowned upon by you.

None that I know of.Other than trying to play the race card what purpose was there for you to bring that up?
 
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Of course, its only patriotic to believe our Constitution is perfect for every situation that ever existed and will exist. It's not like our own Founding Fathers took things like culture, history, and the society for which they were creating this Constitution for. No their intent was to make a perfect system universal for everyone, which they succeeded perfectly with of course.

So why shouldn't Egypt do exactly what our Founding Fathers did, and look at their situation, history, and culture to make the best government for themselves and their people? Because our collective fragile American pride won't allow it that's why!

All that is allright for EGYPT to do that.However someone whose job it is to make court room decisions has no business dissing the very document she is supposed to make court room decisions on.

Wait its ok for the Egyptians to do exactly what Ginsburg is suggesting, however it's not ok for her to say they should do it... even when its perfectly acceptable? What the hell??
 
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Wait its ok for the Egyptians to do exactly what Ginsburg is suggesting, however it's not ok for her to say they should do it... even when its perfectly acceptable? What the hell??

Can we say "political correctness"???

And what the hell exactly classifies Ginsburg's statement as a "diss"?
 
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Can we say "political correctness"???

And what the hell exactly classifies Ginsburg's statement as a "diss"?

I don't believe the Constitution defines what a diss is, nor does it outlaw it, therefore it falls in the realm of protected free speech. Also yes good point, political correctness run amok.
 
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Can we say "political correctness"???

And what the hell exactly classifies Ginsburg's statement as a "diss"?
An unhealthy and possibly dangerous level of nationalism, which, if you dig a bit deeper in those exhibiting it, will reveal itself as a component of jingoism. Much worse than "political correctness", it is an underlying basis for an ideology that supports the idea that the U.S. is superior to all other countries and forms of government (and therefore is destined to rule above them -- in a word, manifest destiny).
 
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"Manifest Destiny" is two words.
 
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"Manifest Destiny" is two words.
True, but "in a word" is an idiom, which is not be be interpreted literally. Synonyms would be "in brief", "in short", "in summary".

And that concludes today's remedial grammar moment
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"Dee dee deer dat how do you know dat de bear arms weally means you own arms dee dee der instead of o o o of weapons dee dee der deerr".

Your post is so idiotic I will not waste my time responding to your post other than telling you how idiotic your post is.

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And your post is so baiting that I will not waste my time responding to it other than tell you how baiting it is.

If you have an argument, make the argument. If you don't have an argument, don't waste our time and bandwidth with this crap.
 
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Wait its ok for the Egyptians to do exactly what Ginsburg is suggesting, however it's not ok for her to say they should do it... even when its perfectly acceptable? What the hell??

If you were running a McDonalds would you want your employees telling customers they should go to Burger king instead of McDonalds?
 
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If you were running a McDonalds would you want your employees telling customers they should go to Burger king instead of McDonalds?

Where is it said the job of a Justice to sell systems of government to other nations?
 
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Where is it said the job of a Justice to sell systems of government to other nations?

Where is it the job to the justice to find fault in the document she is supposed to be making court room decisions on? What she is doing amounts to saying is our constitution sucks, you don't wanna use it. You wouldn't trust a police officer to fully perform his duty if he spoke out against every law.So why would a judge be any different?
 
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