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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Where is it the job to the justice to find fault in the document she is supposed to be making court room decisions on? What she is doing amounts to saying is our constitution sucks, you don't wanna use it. You wouldn't trust a police officer to fully perform his duty if he spoke out against every law.So why would a judge be any different?
    1) As a Justice it is her job to critique the Constitution in order to interpret it, and thus can provide valid criticisms of it.

    2) You ignore the possibility that perhaps the U.S. Constitution does, indeed, suck.

    3) I could easily find groups of law enforcement officers who advocate the repeal the criminalization of drugs, of prostitution, and other laws. And I trust them more than those who don't.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The constitution is not supposed to be amended on a whim.Nor should it be amended on a whim.It is the supreme law of the land.
    None of which negate the possibility of it being an outdated document for modern governments.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The constitution is not supposed to be amended on a whim.Nor should it be amended on a whim.It is the supreme law of the land.
    So first you tell me that the Constitution isn't dated, and then when I clearly demonstrate that it is you tell me that that's how it's supposed to be.

    Like I said, Jefferson would disagree.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Where is it the job to the justice to find fault in the document she is supposed to be making court room decisions on? What she is doing amounts to saying is our constitution sucks, you don't wanna use it. You wouldn't trust a police officer to fully perform his duty if he spoke out against every law.So why would a judge be any different?
    I find it interesting that, despite it having been mentioned several times, our constitution sets forth a particular type of government (presidential) when there are other systems of government available (parliamentary has been mentioned). Do some not understand that promoting the U.S. constitution is also promoting a system of government (again, for those in Rio Linda, "presidential" in the U.S. case) that may not be well suited for a particular country?

    Or is the knee-jerk nationalism so ingrained that anything less that full-throated support of all things American considered treason?

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The constitution is not supposed to be amended on a whim.Nor should it be amended on a whim.It is the supreme law of the land.
    Certain people disagree:

    Thomas Jefferson himself was wary of the power of the dead over the living in the form of an unchanging Constitution. To ensure that each generation have a say in the framework of the government, he proposed that the Constitution, and each one following it, expire after 19 or 20 years.

    Constitutional Topic: Rewriting the Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    The far-righties here want to believe that the U.S. Constitution will work for any country -- no matte what the history, the culture, the population size, the current government, the geography and/or governments of countries on their borders.

    Fantastic. We've got a one-size fits all constitution....

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The far-righties here want to believe that the U.S. Constitution will work for any country -- no matte what the history, the culture, the population size, the current government, the geography and/or governments of countries on their borders.

    Fantastic. We've got a one-size fits all constitution....
    But wait! There's more! If you form your new government within the next 24 hours, we'll double your order and send you a second constitution absolutely free! (extra shipping and handling charges apply)

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    But wait! There's more! If you form your new government within the next 24 hours, we'll double your order and send you a second constitution absolutely free! (extra shipping and handling charges apply)
    Throw in the a free set of amendments and you got a deal!!

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    edify us as to what you would have done back then? that has to be one of the most moronic comments I have ever seen in more than 6 years on this board
    Thanks Turt! That's what I was going for.

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    None of which negate the possibility of it being an outdated document for modern governments.
    The only people who think a constitution is outdated documented are globalist scum and others who hate the constitution and those who want to change the constitution but due to lack of support can not change it. The idea that the constitution is outdated because it was written in the late 1700s is ludicrous. The fact is the constitution can be amended. This means if you want something to be a right you can amend it.If you want to add a restriction to a right then you can amend it.If you want some other changes to government then the constitution can be amended. So that further invalidates the idea that the US constitution is outdated.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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