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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Seeing how you are a lib who buys into the living constitution (Liberal code for blatantly misinterpreting the constitution in order to squash some constitutional rights) b.s. you are probably totally unaware of the fact there is an amendment process in place so you can add and or repeal amendments. The amendment process is what you do if you want to get rid of or add a right.
    And you're the sort of person who thinks that there's only one possible interpretation of the constitution: YOUR interpretation of the constitution.

    You have the right to bear arms. You have two, presumably, attached at your shoulders. That right has never been infringed. Or maybe you are interpreting that arms means "weapons?" And not, say, literal arms? Or specifically firearms which most certainly would not include "any weapon," like you claim?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ginsburg doesn't like our constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    Who can blame her? Our constitution was crafted by an undiverse group of hateful white male christian fundamentalists for hateful white male christian fundamentalists. I'm tired of people acting like the founding fathers were somehow the wisest people who ever lived. They were white supremacists who knew nothing of the merits of diversity, multiculturalism, and government-facilitated social welfare.
    Let me bring your attitude back into real from reality's divide and conquer conquests to own soles by selling notions of immortal soul. This is ancient thinking so the only thing they hide it behind is technological advances.
    But this moment working genetically in natural balance of this moment is being here all the time, that changes everything believed by cultivated conceptual agreements never to discuss real as it functions the same way all the time.

    So the entire human species as it has existed throughout history of humanity has been physically done differently than ancestry being male and female results each generation words rule what is allowed to be discussed under the rule of law that makes it criminal to criticize civil law about character rights.

    The united States Constitution deals with indiviudal sole liberties of ancestors not being society's children. Every other franchise in human history is opposite that thinking. Society owns ancestral resutls each generation for the greater good of those in charge staying in power of suggestion and governance of governmental language arts.
    i.e. legalized tyranny.
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    Re: Ginsburg doesn't like our constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    She didn't say anything about not liking the constitution.
    Telling them to use anything but the model within the original isn't speaking louder than words define by suggestion they use another country's other than the one she rules from through re-interpretation to change gender liberal into character's rights.

    Please, don't insult my instincts.

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    Re: Ginsburg doesn't like our constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by OneMale View Post
    Let me bring your attitude back into real from reality's divide and conquer conquests to own soles by selling notions of immortal soul. This is ancient thinking so the only thing they hide it behind is technological advances.
    But this moment working genetically in natural balance of this moment is being here all the time, that changes everything believed by cultivated conceptual agreements never to discuss real as it functions the same way all the time.

    So the entire human species as it has existed throughout history of humanity has been physically done differently than ancestry being male and female results each generation words rule what is allowed to be discussed under the rule of law that makes it criminal to criticize civil law about character rights.

    The united States Constitution deals with indiviudal sole liberties of ancestors not being society's children. Every other franchise in human history is opposite that thinking. Society owns ancestral resutls each generation for the greater good of those in charge staying in power of suggestion and governance of governmental language arts.
    i.e. legalized tyranny.
    Quote Originally Posted by OneMale View Post
    Telling them to use anything but the model within the original isn't speaking louder than words define by suggestion they use another country's other than the one she rules from through re-interpretation to change gender liberal into character's rights.

    Please, don't insult my instincts.
    Dude. What?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What makes a parliamentary system better than a presidential system?
    The problem with a presidential system is the separation of powers.

    In presidential systems, the main representative of the people is embodied in the legislature. But here's the problem with that.

    Everybody likes their own legislator, but everybody hates the legislature as a whole.

    So when that happens the legislators eventually decide to hand over more and more power over to executive authority. This is so legislators can have a reason to be re-elected to their position without actually having to make hard decisions that may mean they won't be re-elected.

    And so, more and more, the executive becomes less a position of checks and balances and more of a temporary absolute dictatorship.

    In a parliamentary system, however, the executive is established from the legislature, and the executive must maintain the confidence of a majority of the legislators. Therefore, the executive is just as representative as the people are.

    And since the executive is formed from the legislature, the executive is just as dependent on the will of the populace as the legislature is. And so the executive is as tuned into the popular will.

    Also, I think people should be able to have power of federal referendum to act as a check against the government system. So direct democracy can work as a check and balance against the representative democracy.

    That, I think, would be a better method of governance.
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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    [...] No constitution on earth is perfect [...]
    Blasphemy!!! The U.S. Constitution is indeed perfect.
    It would be more perfect if we quit giving rights to people that don't deserve them, like liberals.
    Only by suppressing and subjugating those that disagree can America be made truly free!

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Which amounts to someone saying they support the 2nd amendment before enacting all sorts of infringements on it. [...]
    Well, personally I fully support and defend your right to keep and bear arms that I approve of

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Well, yeah. But some constitutional systems are better than others. And parliamentary systems are better than presidential systems.
    Finally, someone points out that there are, indeed, other forms of government than our 'strong executive' model (which can be prone to Machiavellian machinations). Well done, sir

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce, replying to the OP View Post
    And you're the sort of person who thinks that there's only one possible interpretation of the constitution: YOUR interpretation of the constitution.

    You have the right to bear arms. You have two, presumably, attached at your shoulders. That right has never been infringed. Or maybe you are interpreting that arms means "weapons?" And not, say, literal arms? Or specifically firearms which most certainly would not include "any weapon," like you claim?
    Okay, I have the right to bear arms.

    What about the bear's rights?

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    The problem with a presidential system is the separation of powers.

    In presidential systems, the main representative of the people is embodied in the legislature. But here's the problem with that.

    Everybody likes their own legislator, but everybody hates the legislature as a whole.

    So when that happens the legislators eventually decide to hand over more and more power over to executive authority. This is so legislators can have a reason to be re-elected to their position without actually having to make hard decisions that may mean they won't be re-elected.

    And so, more and more, the executive becomes less a position of checks and balances and more of a temporary absolute dictatorship.

    In a parliamentary system, however, the executive is established from the legislature, and the executive must maintain the confidence of a majority of the legislators. Therefore, the executive is just as representative as the people are.

    And since the executive is formed from the legislature, the executive is just as dependent on the will of the populace as the legislature is. And so the executive is as tuned into the popular will.

    Also, I think people should be able to have power of federal referendum to act as a check against the government system. So direct democracy can work as a check and balance against the representative democracy.

    That, I think, would be a better method of governance.
    But parliamentary systems can be ridiculously unstable, and in the current atmosphere, I suspect would be.
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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Seeing how you are a lib who buys into the living constitution (Liberal code for blatantly misinterpreting the constitution in order to squash some constitutional rights) b.s. you are probably totally unaware of the fact there is an amendment process in place so you can add and or repeal amendments. The amendment process is what you do if you want to get rid of or add a right.
    So which constitutional rights were squashed by the U.S. Supreme Court in the Brown decision? The right to forever condemn blacks to separate and unequal education system?

    And Yeah, I'm sure those southern states would have jumped right on a Constitutional Amendment to do away with the 'separate but equal' garbage. Let's face it - you kinda like the 18th century approach to human rights and equality and anything done by the courts to bring the nation into the light will be frowned upon by you.

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