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    Re: Ginsburg doesn't like our constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    Who can blame her? Our constitution was crafted by an undiverse group of hateful white male christian fundamentalists for hateful white male christian fundamentalists. I'm tired of people acting like the founding fathers were somehow the wisest people who ever lived. They were white supremacists who knew nothing of the merits of diversity, multiculturalism, and government-facilitated social welfare.

    Justice Ginsburg to Egyptian TV: You probably don’t want to use our Constitution as a model « Hot Air
    She didn't say anything about not liking the constitution.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Which amounts to someone saying they support the 2nd amendment before enacting all sorts of infringements on it. If she had sch a high regard for it then she wouldn't be basically dumping on it by telling other people to not go with ours but instead go with some other country's.
    Of course, its only patriotic to believe our Constitution is perfect for every situation that ever existed and will exist. It's not like our own Founding Fathers took things like culture, history, and the society for which they were creating this Constitution for. No their intent was to make a perfect system universal for everyone, which they succeeded perfectly with of course.

    So why shouldn't Egypt do exactly what our Founding Fathers did, and look at their situation, history, and culture to make the best government for themselves and their people? Because our collective fragile American pride won't allow it that's why!

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What makes our constitution inflectional is due to scumbag politicians subverting the constitution and supreme court judges making rulings based on their political bias.It has nothing to do with the constitution itself. This can happen with any constitution.
    Especailly that damned Brown v. Board of Education decision from 1954. (sarcasm alert)

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Which amounts to someone saying they support the 2nd amendment before enacting all sorts of infringements on it. If she had sch a high regard for it then she wouldn't be basically dumping on it by telling other people to not go with ours but instead go with some other country's.
    Because, after all, ours was written by Gods (well, rich white guys - which I guess in some people's minds is the same thing). How dare anybody suggest somebody else may have gotten some parts a little better after looking at it though 21st century eyes?

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    Re: Ginsburg doesn't like our constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    Who can blame her? Our constitution was crafted by an undiverse group of hateful white male christian fundamentalists for hateful white male christian fundamentalists. I'm tired of people acting like the founding fathers were somehow the wisest people who ever lived. They were white supremacists who knew nothing of the merits of diversity, multiculturalism, and government-facilitated social welfare.
    So you're attacking the characters of the Founders (rather than the ideas they wrote into the Constitution). Well, good job on your ad hominem argument. What about the actual Constitution?


    If you got Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Jeff Dahmer and John W. Gacy together and they produced a document that touted small central government with checks and balances of powers and advised against private control of the currencies of nations, etc.... I would find that all to be very agreeable, regardless of whatever sick **** those individuals might have done in private that I would have found morally disagreeable.

    The ideas speak for themselves. Your character attacks are a sign of intellectual weakness.
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    Re: Ginsburg doesn't like our constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    Who can blame her? Our constitution was crafted by an undiverse group of hateful white male christian fundamentalists for hateful white male christian fundamentalists. I'm tired of people acting like the founding fathers were somehow the wisest people who ever lived. They were white supremacists who knew nothing of the merits of diversity, multiculturalism, and government-facilitated social welfare.

    Justice Ginsburg to Egyptian TV: You probably don’t want to use our Constitution as a model « Hot Air
    Please don't have children!

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Because, after all, ours was written by Gods (well, rich white guys - which I guess in some people's minds is the same thing). How dare anybody suggest somebody else may have gotten some parts a little better after looking at it though 21st century eyes?

    Seeing how you are a lib who buys into the living constitution (Liberal code for blatantly misinterpreting the constitution in order to squash some constitutional rights) b.s. you are probably totally unaware of the fact there is an amendment process in place so you can add and or repeal amendments. The amendment process is what you do if you want to get rid of or add a right.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Only in the weird black-and-white universe you seem to live in is she "dumping on" our constitution.

    Does "shall not be infringed" mean you should be allowed to own a nuclear weapon? That's an "arm!"
    Shall not infringe means I should be allowed to own any weapon without any infringements. If you wish for the 2nd amendment to have infringements there is an amendment process for that.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Of course, its only patriotic to believe our Constitution is perfect for every situation that ever existed and will exist. It's not like our own Founding Fathers took things like culture, history, and the society for which they were creating this Constitution for. No their intent was to make a perfect system universal for everyone, which they succeeded perfectly with of course.

    So why shouldn't Egypt do exactly what our Founding Fathers did, and look at their situation, history, and culture to make the best government for themselves and their people? Because our collective fragile American pride won't allow it that's why!

    All that is allright for EGYPT to do that.However someone whose job it is to make court room decisions has no business dissing the very document she is supposed to make court room decisions on.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Well, yeah. But some constitutional systems are better than others. And parliamentary systems are better than presidential systems.
    What makes a parliamentary system better than a presidential system?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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