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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    If anyone can point out the similarities between 1700's America and modern Egypt that would make the US constitution the most viable solution, be my guest.
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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Which is ludicrous since effective constitutions must take into account scumbag politicians and supreme court justices making rulings based on their political bias.


    The federal government and states all across the country have misinterpreted the 2nd amendment in order to infringe upon it even though the constitution blatantly says the people have the right to keep and bear arms and that it shall not be infringed. States have DUI checks and the TSA has virtual strip searches and invasive pat downs ever though the 4th amendment says you need reasonable cause or a warrant to search someone. These are pretty clear amendments. If something like that can happen in the USA which is a pretty great country then something like that can definitely happen in other countries regardless of how well written their constitutions are. Scumbags in office will use the "its for the public good" , "it was written at a different time" or use the "we have different technology today than they did back then" excuse as a means to **** on that constitution.
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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think that someone whose job it is to make court room decisions based on the constitution should have a really high regard for the constitution. I find it hard to believe that someone who does not have a high regard for our constitution can be fully trusted to do their job. Perhaps this is why she used foreign laws to influence some of her court room decisions. No constitution on earth is perfect and every constitution on earth can be subject to scumbags blatantly misinterpreting it in order to screw people out of their rights.
    And she indicates in her interview that she has just such a high regard for our constitution. You are making a mountain out of something les than a molehill.
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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The federal government and states all across the country have misinterpreted the 2nd amendment in order to infringe upon it even though the constitution blatantly says the people have the right to keep and bear arms and that it shall not be infringed. States have DUI checks and the TSA has virtual strip searches and invasive pat downs ever though the 4th amendment says you need reasonable cause or a warrant to search someone. These are pretty clear amendments. If something like that can happen in the USA which is a pretty great country then something like that can definitely happen in other countries regardless of how well written their constitutions are. Scumbags in office will use the "its for the public good" , "it was written at a different time" or use the "we have different technology today than they did back then" excuse as a means to **** on that constitution.
    Which does not in any way invalidate what I said about our constitution.
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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And she indicates in her interview that she has just such a high regard for our constitution. You are making a mountain out of something les than a molehill.
    Which amounts to someone saying they support the 2nd amendment before enacting all sorts of infringements on it. If she had sch a high regard for it then she wouldn't be basically dumping on it by telling other people to not go with ours but instead go with some other country's.
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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Which does not in any way invalidate what I said about our constitution.

    You claimed that constitutions must take into account scumbag politicians and supreme court justices making rulings based on their political bias.Ours does that but elected officials and supreme court judges don't care.Which is why it it doesn't matter how well written a constitution is. If elected officials wish to subvert it then they will find a way.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Look at the end of his post. See where is says "j/k"? That stands for "just kidding". He was making(and admitedly poor) joke. Let me know if you need any more help with those complicated internet acronyms.
    OK, I hope obama slips on a bananna peel and breaks his neck. "J/K".

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    Ginsburg doesn't like our constitution

    Who can blame her? Our constitution was crafted by an undiverse group of hateful white male christian fundamentalists for hateful white male christian fundamentalists. I'm tired of people acting like the founding fathers were somehow the wisest people who ever lived. They were white supremacists who knew nothing of the merits of diversity, multiculturalism, and government-facilitated social welfare.

    Justice Ginsburg to Egyptian TV: You probably don’t want to use our Constitution as a model « Hot Air

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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You claimed that constitutions must take into account scumbag politicians and supreme court justices making rulings based on their political bias.Ours does that but elected officials and supreme court judges don't care.Which is why it it doesn't matter how well written a constitution is. If elected officials wish to subvert it then they will find a way.
    Well, yeah. But some constitutional systems are better than others. And parliamentary systems are better than presidential systems.
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    Re: US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Egyptians: Look to the Constituti

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Which amounts to someone saying they support the 2nd amendment before enacting all sorts of infringements on it. If she had sch a high regard for it then she wouldn't be basically dumping on it by telling other people to not go with ours but instead go with some other country's.
    Only in the weird black-and-white universe you seem to live in is she "dumping on" our constitution.

    Does "shall not be infringed" mean you should be allowed to own a nuclear weapon? That's an "arm!"
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