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40 killed ... Egypt soccer match

Erod said:
Such a refined, civilized grade of people over there. Is there anything that doesn't get them juiced up to kill people?
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What an ignorant comment. :roll:

This happens in South America, Africa and Europe as well. What happens after almost every championship here in the USA? Riots. Millions of dollars of damage. Injuries. Some deaths. Grab a clue.
 
Manc Skipper said:
At least half the dead were crushed in the stampede for the exits. That can happen in any crowd. There's a long history of rivalry and violence between this set of fans. The talk today seems to surround the home fans, who had strongly supported the revolution, claiming that remnants of the Mubarak regime had used the event to settle scores. Mubarak may be gone, but the Army who supported his reign is still in power, and they control the police who seemed half-hearted in their attempts to contain the riot.
My impression of American sport is that it's a more sanitised experience overall, but by and large, due to the distances between franchises, you don't get large groups of opposing supporters following their team to away matches, so the opportunity for clashes is near non-existent.
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...and our police are out IN FORCE. Something you noted is not happening there. Hell, people get trampled to death in America at early morning sales for cabbage patch dolls for their kids for Christmas.
 
Bodhisattva said:
...and our police are out IN FORCE. Something you noted is not happening there. Hell, people get trampled to death in America at early morning sales for cabbage patch dolls for their kids for Christmas.
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Police presence at American sporting events isnt that large, like Manc said not many away team fans travel to games in the US so you rarely see trouble.
 
Higgins86 said:
Police presence at American sporting events isnt that large, like Manc said not many away team fans travel to games in the US so you rarely see trouble.
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Well there was this bit of trouble back in 1995. Attendees at a NY Giants game threw snowballs at the San Diego Chargers.


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Higgins86 said:
Police presence at American sporting events isnt that large, like Manc said not many away team fans travel to games in the US so you rarely see trouble.
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I am talking about at the Championship game after the game for the riots that occur after the game... it is about trouble makers at sports and not "when" they are making trouble. My counter point stands correct when kept in the context of the debate.

...and I was agreeing with Manc.
 
Higgins86 said:
gunner said:
the hooligan movement in the 70;s and especially 80's was ver political as well, people frustrated with the economy, the police, thatcher and then would go out on the weekend and vent their anger!
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Of course I am aware of the discontent and disenfranchisement of the 'working class' (those that make up the bulk of Football supporters) at the time of Thatcher's reign, but I'm not convinced, on the whole, that Football Hooliganism had much to do with a Political statement in the sense, that you say. Have you any links to back your claim?

Here's a good link for a general view

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/may/18/seven-deadly-sins-thatcher-tories-football


Paul
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