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    Murder, because under the law the killing of an unborn child by a 2nd party without the mothers consent is illegal.

    The killing of an unborn child with the consent of the mother that is within the legal parameters for abortions is legal and thus can not be murder.

    As Rush states, words have meaning. The killing is no less gruesome by not being called murder. However, the fact is that abortion is not "murder"...at best it's "killing". Murder requires illegality
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    Re: Janet Howell, Virginia State Senator, Attaches Rectal Exam Amendment To Anti-Abor

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    No really, you think offering more information about a government program is the same as forcing some one to get an unnecessary medical procedure? Really?

    Come on, at least try a little bit. This is just sad.
    You make it sound like an ultrasound is a burden. Your problem isn't the ultrasound, it's the fact that a majority of women, when shown they aren't killing a "bundle of cells", decide to not kill their children.
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    Re: Janet Howell, Virginia State Senator, Attaches Rectal Exam Amendment To Anti-Abor

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    Yes, because there entire business is run on the concept of encouraging abortions, even though abortions account for only 3% of the services administered by planned parenthood in 2009.

    Don't let those facts get in the way o your rage though, lol.
    Abortions are where PP makes it's money.
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    Re: Janet Howell, Virginia State Senator, Attaches Rectal Exam Amendment To Anti-Abor

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    No, I don't wonder it at all when people who are in favor of big government question me about my conservative credentials. I laugh about the irony of the fact that because I don't let one particluar branch of conservatism overrule the other branches they want to question my ideology.

    Yeah, the government forcing women to undergo an additional procedure, at their expense, to undergo a legal activity that some people feel is morrally wrong may be socially conservative...but there's no way in hell that squares with the conservative principles of limited government, individual freedom, and consumer freedom.

    No Mr V...people like YOU questioning my conservatism never makes me wonder why or question myself. It make me laugh.
    Is that your defense? You are against "big government" making women get an ultrasound makes you a conservative?
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    Re: Janet Howell, Virginia State Senator, Attaches Rectal Exam Amendment To Anti-Abor

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    Is that your defense? You are against "big government" making women get an ultrasound makes you a conservative?
    How about some additional big government programs, since you like this one so much? How about, every time you fill up your tank, you're required to pay to see a documentary about the Gulf oil spill? Or, whenever you go to buy amunition, you're required to pay to view a 30 minute documentary on gun violence? Sounds good?

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    Re: Janet Howell, Virginia State Senator, Attaches Rectal Exam Amendment To Anti-Abor

    Cardiac stress test, all fine and dandy, but wouldn't it have made slightly more sense to include perhaps a session of therapy in the amendment rather than something about the anus?
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    Re: Janet Howell, Virginia State Senator, Attaches Rectal Exam Amendment To Anti-Abor

    Wait a minute.
    We have people here cheering on the kiddy game of "two wrongs make a right?"

    Interesting.
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    Re: Janet Howell, Virginia State Senator, Attaches Rectal Exam Amendment To Anti-Abor

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You make it sound like an ultrasound is a burden. Your problem isn't the ultrasound, it's the fact that a majority of women, when shown they aren't killing a "bundle of cells", decide to not kill their children.
    Again with the straw man. Did I say or suggest burden? Nope. Can you actually argue about what I have written instead of making **** up?
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    Re: Janet Howell, Virginia State Senator, Attaches Rectal Exam Amendment To Anti-Abor

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    No, I don't wonder it at all when people who are in favor of big government question me about my conservative credentials. I laugh about the irony of the fact that because I don't let one particluar branch of conservatism overrule the other branches they want to question my ideology.

    Yeah, the government forcing women to undergo an additional procedure, at their expense, to undergo a legal activity that some people feel is morrally wrong may be socially conservative...but there's no way in hell that squares with the conservative principles of limited government, individual freedom, and consumer freedom.

    No Mr V...people like YOU questioning my conservatism never makes me wonder why or question myself. It make me laugh.
    You don't seem conservative to me at all. I have not been here long but….just have a feeling your more like a McCain or a Romney. Am I right?

    What are you conservative about?

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    Re: Janet Howell, Virginia State Senator, Attaches Rectal Exam Amendment To Anti-Abor

    and some wonder why medical cost are not going down and why Congress is dysfunctional.
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