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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Yup, there is a definite difference between rights assigned in the Constitution and the negotiated rights in contracts. Making a concession in a contract by no means mean the concession is for perpetuity, rather it is valid until the contract expires. There is a certain inability on the part of leftist to accept what should probably be obvious. They have no 'rights' beyond that.
    You're exactly right. Too many people think that when a teacher is hired into the system under a 3-year contract they are, as you say, going to receive exactly those benefits (or more) as long as they are employed. A three-year contract is just that. A three-year contract.
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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Taxpayers' rights and workers' rights can coexist. The foolish attempt by some to make this a question of either/or is stupid.
    Sorry to burst your bubble sport. This is about municipal unions. Municipal Unions that FDR and George Meany said were as a cancer on the Republic. As did LaGuardia. They are corrupt. They survive via extortion and payola. And the average working taxpayer is sick of these teat-sucking moochers.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    It looks like the public unions don't have quite the support they imagine. Since elections in WI are typically tight, I would expect that once the union picked candidate is known and starts making a name through advertising, the polls will tighten up. But for now, unions have to be worried and doing their best to discredit this.





    Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating - Yahoo! News
    You realize this poll was paid for by the Koch brothers who rigged the outcome right? Because 1,000,000,000 fully legitimate, valid signatures from Wisconsinites say they want him to go so there is no way he not hated by all.
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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Sorry to burst your bubble sport. This is about municipal unions. Municipal Unions that FDR and George Meany said were as a cancer on the Republic. As did LaGuardia. They are corrupt. They survive via extortion and payola. And the average working taxpayer is sick of these teat-sucking moochers.
    I'm not sure how you think sharing your opinion is 'bursting my bubble'. Nothing that you said affected my opinion either way.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    If it isnít protected by rule of law, it is purely semantics.

    Progressives call some things right as a tool to effect change. That is what you are doing, nothing more.
    I'm not calling things right. I'm calling them rights. And they are rights and your earlier attempt to pretend that Constitutional rights are the only rights is still wrong.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Yup, there is a definite difference between rights assigned in the Constitution and the negotiated rights in contracts. Making a concession in a contract by no means mean the concession is for perpetuity, rather it is valid until the contract expires. There is a certain inability on the part of leftist to accept what should probably be obvious. They have no 'rights' beyond that.
    The only thing evident in this discussion is that certain people with to limit the meaning of "rights" to a definition that is essentially shared only by libertarians and far right conservatives. Unfortunately, rights are not defined in the real world within that strict definition and at the end of the day, rights were taken away. You seem to have an ability to accept the obvious reality.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I'm not calling things right. I'm calling them rights. And they are rights and your earlier attempt to pretend that Constitutional rights are the only rights is still wrong.
    you can call them widgets for all I care, it doesn't make them so.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The only thing evident in this discussion is that certain people with to limit the meaning of "rights" to a definition that is essentially shared only by libertarians and far right conservatives. Unfortunately, rights are not defined in the real world within that strict definition and at the end of the day, rights were taken away. You seem to have an ability to accept the obvious reality.
    employees now have the right to not have their money stolen by a union they don't approve of

    so actually, rights were extended,.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Really a phone poll?.....Wonder what kind dinosaurs still answer phone calls/polls.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You realize this poll was paid for by the Koch brothers who rigged the outcome right? Because 1,000,000,000 fully legitimate, valid signatures from Wisconsinites say they want him to go so there is no way he not hated by all.
    OH.. The old boogey man, AKA Koch Brothers. Scary stuff, that. Edit: Just realized you may actualyl be kidding. If so, well done.
    Last edited by buck; 01-26-12 at 10:25 PM.

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