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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    If the non-union electorate of the state votes in their own interest, Walker stays. Public employees getting benefits & job security private sector employees can only dream of is not a strong selling point.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    it's too bad that liberals still fear the domino effect and interfere in governments they are not a part of out of this irrational fear.
    You mean kind of like how tons of outsiders spent millions campaigning against gay marriage in California?

    Holy ****, who would have thought it works both ways and that you can't just stereotype the other side without i coming back on you?

    Caring about workers rights isn't an irrational fear.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    You mean kind of like how tons of outsiders spent millions campaigning against gay marriage in California?

    Holy ****, who would have thought it works both ways and that you can't just stereotype the other side without i coming back on you?

    Caring about workers rights isn't an irrational fear.
    Yes, exactly like that. Two wrongs are two wrongs.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    it's too bad that liberals still fear the domino effect and interfere in governments they are not a part of out of this irrational fear.
    Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. - King

    When people see workers' rights being threatened, it's not irrational to think that they will be threatened elsewhere. It's better to nip the problem in the bud and send a message. It's the same with every other political concern as well including gun rights, gay marriage and other conservative political topics. That you would pretend that being 'liberal' has anything to with such concern and actions is nonsensical and frankly reveals some irrational biases.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. - King

    When people see workers' rights being threatened, it's not irrational to think that they will be threatened elsewhere. It's better to nip the problem in the bud and send a message. It's the same with every other political concern as well including gun rights, gay marriage and other conservative political topics. That you would pretend that being 'liberal' has anything to with such concern and actions is nonsensical and frankly reveals some irrational biases.
    A quote concerning rampant racism used to get public union people to pay more for their benefits is why I can’t stomach you people.

    At least the social conservatives had a rational fear of how the courts interpret the incorporation of the constitution and the effect California marriage laws could impact other states.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    The injustice is that government workers may get lavished benefits that others cannot hope to attain while having those benefits funded by taxpayers. Years ago the up side to being a private sector employee was that you made better wages and had better benefits. The downside was that you didn't have a high level of job security. On the flip side public sector jobs payed lower and had lower benefits but offered better job security.

    The public sector is not for profit and it's funded by tax payers. They have a right to unionize but because the government is their employer these unions shouldn't have the right or privilege to extort the government for more money at the taxpayer and state budget's expense. They should have less privileges and limited power when it comes to public sector unions.
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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The injustice is that government workers may get lavished benefits that others cannot hope to attain while having those benefits funded by taxpayers. Years ago the up side to being a private sector employee was that you made better wages and had better benefits. The downside was that you didn't have a high level of job security. On the flip side public sector jobs payed lower and had lower benefits but offered better job security.

    The public sector is not for profit and it's funded by tax payers. They have a right to unionize but because the government is their employer these unions shouldn't have the right or privilege to extort the government for more money at the taxpayer and state budget's expense. They should have less privileges and limited power when it comes to public sector unions.
    Yes...the first think I think of when thinking Government Job is "lavish"....
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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    They have a right to unionize but because the government is their employer these unions shouldn't have the right or privilege to extort the government for more money at the taxpayer and state budget's expense. They should have less privileges and limited power when it comes to public sector unions.
    public employees will always belong to a union. The citizens of the government they work for is the union.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    A quote concerning rampant racism used to get public union people to pay more for their benefits is why I can’t stomach you people.
    That you think King was only concerned with racism in that quote is why I can't take your posts seriously. That you tie something everyone does to 'liberals' and then make comments about 'you people' is why I'm laughing at your post.

    At least the social conservatives had a rational fear of how the courts interpret the incorporation of the constitution and the effect California marriage laws could impact other states.
    What's irrational about thinking that states might continue to arbitrarily take away collective bargaining rights? It seems to me that you just can't respect people who disagree with you.

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    Re: Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The injustice is that government workers may get lavished benefits that others cannot hope to attain while having those benefits funded by taxpayers. Years ago the up side to being a private sector employee was that you made better wages and had better benefits. The downside was that you didn't have a high level of job security. On the flip side public sector jobs payed lower and had lower benefits but offered better job security.

    The public sector is not for profit and it's funded by tax payers. They have a right to unionize but because the government is their employer these unions shouldn't have the right or privilege to extort the government for more money at the taxpayer and state budget's expense. They should have less privileges and limited power when it comes to public sector unions.
    What does this have to do with anything? The unions agreed to the budget related cuts that Walker proposed in Wisconsin and he still took away their collective bargaining rights. This is not about money no matter how much people pretend it is.

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