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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    It's the idea with insurance, to spread the payments among everyone in the pool. The idea with smokers is to penalise them for smoking which is bad. Using contraceptive is something that should be encouraged.
    It is still being spread with co-pays. I shouldn't have to pay a co-pay for my heart medicine (which I don't actually use) becuase it's a good thing to take it. It sure is cheaper than a transplant.

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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Birth control is not always 100% at least it wasn't back in the early 1960s. If we keep Planned Parenthood in our districts, they will offer health information and often prescriptions for Birth Control.

    We all have the choice of taking a chance when we make love and if we are fast on our feet and can run like hell to a "Morning After" drug store, we should make it safely. Choice is always the single factor for our success in protecting ourselves and our already born children. The Religious Right Candidates currently running for POTUS, want to ban Planned Parenthood and then all birth control. They do this for Jesus and that is their choice.....but it is our choice to ignore them.

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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Unfortunately - many are determined on making it law so then it's not just a personal choice to satisfy - it's their mandate centered around their beliefs.
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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    As much as most with health care can afford B.C.
    I'm not trying to be an ass, but giving away birth control is about as useful as giving away water.
    Sure people will take it, but they could afford it without the subsidy.
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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    All this does is spread co-pays between those who need the B.C. and those who do not. The cost of the insurance is going to go up for all.

    How does it not make sense that those who utilize their health care more than others pays a higher percentage of the costs? Is this not the idea concerning charging smokers more than non smokers?
    Or a better question, how can you insure against someone choosing to use birth control?
    It's a freebie and it still doesn't make any sense.

    Check this out people, insurance exists to mitigate loss in an unforeseen event.
    That is the entire purpose for insurance, it does not exist to provide you with a bunch of "free" stuff.
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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Which is cheaper?

    1) Taxpayers forced to pay for abortions?

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    2) Not paying for abortions, but forcing the woman to carry a fetus to term, which she then abandons, thus throwing the cost of raising the child on the taxpayers?

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    3) Birth control without copay?

    I'll go with birth control. This one is a no-brainer.
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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Which is cheaper?

    1) Taxpayers forced to pay for abortions?

    OR

    2) Not paying for abortions, but forcing the woman to carry a fetus to term, which she then abandons, thus throwing the cost of raising the child on the taxpayers?

    OR

    3) Birth control without copay?

    I'll go with birth control. This one is a no-brainer.
    So dan, people who have insurance are already likely to get birth control, with or without the freebie built in.
    You're jumping to conclusions here, buddy.
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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Ouch!

    You make an excellent point.

    In general, there is NO justification in drug companies being BOTH exempt from anti-trust laws AND PROTECTED by patent laws. The reason drugs cost less in other countries is those countries have a free market. The USA outlaws a free market when it comes to prescription drugs.

    Best wishes for a speedy recovery and healing!

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    It goes up because the US laws protecting drug company profits keep them from having to sell the meds at reasonable price. An example: After a pulmonary embolism, I had to receive two injections a day (in my tummy ) of a generic drug called Enoxiparin. My cost in the US was $95 per pre-filled syringe. I have a friend from a diet-related BB who is a Canadian pharmacist - the cost of that drug in Canada is $29/ syringe.

    BC pills costs far less in other countries. The name-brand BC my youngest daughter uses costs $39/month in the US and $8 in Canada. If insurers had the option of buying meds from other countries, the costs in the US would drop dramatically as US sellers had to bring down their prices to move their product.

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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    It is still being spread with co-pays. I shouldn't have to pay a co-pay for my heart medicine (which I don't actually use) becuase it's a good thing to take it. It sure is cheaper than a transplant.
    Right, you shouldn't have to co-pay for it.
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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Or a better question, how can you insure against someone choosing to use birth control?
    It's a freebie and it still doesn't make any sense.

    Check this out people, insurance exists to mitigate loss in an unforeseen event.
    That is the entire purpose for insurance, it does not exist to provide you with a bunch of "free" stuff.
    In reality, that's not the case. My insurance provided new customers with free health check which they can choose to take advantage of or not. And at what point does it become "free stuff" vs "unforeseen event", at what point from finding out that one has diabetes and being told by one's doctor that s/he need to take diabetic drugs does it become "free stuff"? What if the person has to go on dialysis for the rest of his/her life?
    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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