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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Providing free BC is a no-brainer for costs-control. It costs far less to help a a man or woman who cannot afford BC to prevent a pregnancy than to provide OB services, pediatric services and likely WIC (food supplement for low-income children and pregnant women), Food Stamps, subsidized housing, etc. If the man or woman cannot afford BC, they will most certainly be eligible for Medicaid, WIC, FS, and income-based help with housing.

    I hear conservatives screaming "personal responsibility". If I have a couple of kids, don't want to have more and have to choose between purchasing BC and keeping a roof over my kids head and food in their tummies.... I'm choosing my kids. Many families have been faced with this dilemma in the past because insurers refused to cover BC or had extraordinarily high co-pays for BC.

    Perhaps allowing true free-market forces to intervene in drug pricing would stop drug companies from raising prices. Let prescription drug providers buy foreign drugs and see how fast all drug costs plummet. US citizens pay far more for drugs than citizens of other countries.
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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    I think the federal government should pay for mandatory vasectomies and tubal ligations of all people running for public office. I'd support that. That wouldn't apply to Democrat men however because by the time they become elected they don't have any balls.










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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Providing free BC is a no-brainer for costs-control. It costs far less to help a a man or woman who cannot afford BC to prevent a pregnancy than to provide OB services, pediatric services and likely WIC (food supplement for low-income children and pregnant women), Food Stamps, subsidized housing, etc. If the man or woman cannot afford BC, they will most certainly be eligible for Medicaid, WIC, FS, and income-based help with housing.
    I'm going to guess that those described are not among those who will be getting free B.C.

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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Why don't the USA government mandate castration for all male USA citizens. That would be a one time cost for each male citizen instead of on-going costs for eash female citizen. They could further reduce the cost by allowing anyone to perform castrations. Many farm kids learn this skill at an early age by castrating calves, pigs, and sheep.

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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Birth control is cheaper than pregnancy.
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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Providing free BC is a no-brainer for costs-control. It costs far less to help a a man or woman who cannot afford BC to prevent a pregnancy than to provide OB services, pediatric services and likely WIC (food supplement for low-income children and pregnant women), Food Stamps, subsidized housing, etc. If the man or woman cannot afford BC, they will most certainly be eligible for Medicaid, WIC, FS, and income-based help with housing.

    I hear conservatives screaming "personal responsibility". If I have a couple of kids, don't want to have more and have to choose between purchasing BC and keeping a roof over my kids head and food in their tummies.... I'm choosing my kids. Many families have been faced with this dilemma in the past because insurers refused to cover BC or had extraordinarily high co-pays for BC.

    Perhaps allowing true free-market forces to intervene in drug pricing would stop drug companies from raising prices. Let prescription drug providers buy foreign drugs and see how fast all drug costs plummet. US citizens pay far more for drugs than citizens of other countries.
    You don't get that Government mandated "free" means the costs go waaaay up. It's just how **** works. Always it is, good intentions are the reasoning for such stupidity.
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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You don't get that Government mandated "free" means the costs go waaaay up. It's just how **** works. Always it is, good intentions are the reasoning for such stupidity.
    It goes up because the US laws protecting drug company profits keep them from having to sell the meds at reasonable price. An example: After a pulmonary embolism, I had to receive two injections a day (in my tummy ) of a generic drug called Enoxiparin. My cost in the US was $95 per pre-filled syringe. I have a friend from a diet-related BB who is a Canadian pharmacist - the cost of that drug in Canada is $29/ syringe.

    BC pills costs far less in other countries. The name-brand BC my youngest daughter uses costs $39/month in the US and $8 in Canada. If insurers had the option of buying meds from other countries, the costs in the US would drop dramatically as US sellers had to bring down their prices to move their product.

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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    All this does is spread co-pays between those who need the B.C. and those who do not. The cost of the insurance is going to go up for all.

    How does it not make sense that those who utilize their health care more than others pays a higher percentage of the costs? Is this not the idea concerning charging smokers more than non smokers?
    It's the idea with insurance, to spread the payments among everyone in the pool. The idea with smokers is to penalise them for smoking which is bad. Using contraceptive is something that should be encouraged.
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    Re: Health plans ordered to cover birth control without co-pays

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Okay, I'm gonna ignore the religious angle on this because frankly, it's not important here. Two things are:

    1. The "cost" of BC is going to skyrocket. You, the end purchaser won't see this, because it's "free". But your insurance company will. Producers of the BC know that they can raise the prices and it MUST BE PAID FOR, cost controls jsut **** the bed. GJ Obama and Co.
    yep - as did everything else that went out of our hands and into the hands of our insurance companies - that's why everything's so expensive as it is.
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