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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    these guys did somethign wrong and should be punished but its a military matter, a Politician like Clinton who has never served in the military has no place hanging these guys out to dry
    I think he's asking who did Clinton hang out to dry?

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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    these guys did somethign wrong and should be punished but its a military matter, a Politician like Clinton who has never served in the military has no place hanging these guys out to dry
    What these guys did is so wrong, it dishonors the US, and especially the military, in the eyes of the world that we are militarily occupying and our allies. The Secretary of State has a duty to try to restore that honor by showing this behavior is condemned from the top down.
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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think he's asking who did Clinton hang out to dry?
    well given the subject matter I would of thought that was pretty obvious!

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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What these guys did is so wrong, it dishonors the US, and especially the military, in the eyes of the world that we are militarily occupying and our allies. The Secretary of State has a duty to try to restore that honor by showing this behavior is condemned from the top down.

    it is it not the Secretary of State responsibility to interfere with military matters and it is not for her to sugget any kind of punishment they should receive. I'm not disagreeing with you that what they did was wrong but neither of us know what their mental state was when the video was taken, what their unit had been through and what kind of support they were getting from their Officers and punishment should be internal and kept private, America does not owe the Taliban an apology nor does it owe it an explanation.

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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In a word...no.

    I spent 12 years in the Army, as an infantryman--one of the very soldiers that needed to know those kinds of regulations the most--and I was in the service for about 8 years before I was ever exposed to anything that might remotely come close to suggesting that pissing on a dead enemy might even sorta be a violation of any rule, regulation, or order.

    Now, was I educated on how to treat a live enemy? i.e. a POW? Hell yes! But, dead enemies? No, not really too much at all.

    They didn't tell us we couldn't masturbate sitting in front of the barracks either but it was just kind of sorta understood.
    Am certain these young marines would all agree that was a dumbass act to videotape.

    Many may disagree with me but I think you are given more leniency to such acts on an enemy killed on your own land than when you are a guest in someone else's land.
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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    They didn't tell us we couldn't masturbate sitting in front of the barracks either but it was just kind of sorta understood.
    Am certain these young marines would all agree that was a dumbass act to videotape.

    Many may disagree with me but I think you are given more leniency to such acts on an enemy killed on your own land than when you are a guest in someone else's land.

    guests? Wow I think someone missed the memo in that case

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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    it is it not the Secretary of State responsibility to interfere with military matters and it is not for her to sugget any kind of punishment they should receive. I'm not disagreeing with you that what they did was wrong but neither of us know what their mental state was when the video was taken, what their unit had been through and what kind of support they were getting from their Officers and punishment should be internal and kept private, America does not owe the Taliban an apology nor does it owe it an explanation.
    Its not about respect for the Taliban, it is about respect for the the people of Afghanistan whom we have been trying to convince for the last decade that we are held to a higher moral standard than the Taliban. Not to mention dishonor we show to our allies who we rely on for support.

    Condemning the actions as dishonorable and calling for the maximum punishment under the law, is the least that would be expected from our leaders. And that does not interfere in any way with the military process in this matter.
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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its not about respect for the Taliban, it is about respect for the the people of Afghanistan whom we have been trying to convince for the last decade that we are held to a higher moral standard than the Taliban. Not to mention dishonor we show to our allies who we rely on for support.

    Condemning the actions as dishonorable and calling for the maximum punishment under the law, is the least that would be expected from our leaders. And that does not interfere in any way with the military process in this matter.

    and what law would that be? Would it not be Military law?

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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    and what law would that be? Would it not be Military law?
    The military operates under a civilian commander. Military law is a subset of US law. How has Clinton interfered with the case?
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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The military operates under a civilian commander. Military law is a subset of US law. How has Clinton interfered with the case?

    I just thought her comments were a little rash and a little bit weak, seemed to me they were more worried about this "peace deal" with the taliban than they were about the actual video.

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