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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    you can still be disgusted by it but still not want them to be hung out to dry
    Exactly. I want to use them as an example, not as sacrificial lambs.

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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Exactly. I want to use them as an example, not as sacrificial lambs.

    ok fair enough I agree with that. There are proper channels that can and will be used to punish these guys and I don't know much about the US Marines but im sure that they will struggle to move forward with their military careers from now on. It would be too risky for the US military to allow these men to ever reach a rank where they would be in charge of other men, im sure the press would be all over it.

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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    I am certain that these men can learn to behave appropriately with the proper guidance, and a well-phrased apology is usually sufficient to make something like this go away.

    The problem is that public apologies are so very rarely well-phrased.

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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    I had no higher expectations of Perry, so I cannot say that I am at all surprised.
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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I had no higher expectations of Perry, so I cannot say that I am at all surprised.
    See? This is why I don't want to cut those Marines too much slack.

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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I had no higher expectations of Perry, so I cannot say that I am at all surprised.

    not a big fan of Perry but im also not as fan of throwing these guys under the bus like Clinton did

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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Doesn't their basic training include any instruction on how a marine is expected to behave towards the bodies of dead enemy combatants? Seems like the failure lies a little further up the chain of command.
    When I went to basic training in Fort Benning Ga to be an infantry soldier they did not teach us anything about respecting dead bodies. They gave you an idea on how to inspect a dead body to make sure they are no booby traps and to look for intel, but there was never any you can't defile dead bodies of enemy combatants. I imagine that actual marine infantrymen (No I do not buy that lie that every marine is a infantry man seeing how POGs and grunts in the marines have different training) basic training is no different than Army infantry basic training in that regard.
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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    See? This is why I don't want to cut those Marines too much slack.

    Neither do I, and I think the embarrassment of being publicly identified for their actions will go a long ways in addition to the punishment by the Marines for the dishonor this brings on them.

    This is something they will have to live down for the rest of their lives.
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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    not a big fan of Perry but im also not as fan of throwing these guys under the bus like Clinton did
    Hows that?
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    Re: Rick Perry Defends Marines Who Urinated On Corpses

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Hows that?

    these guys did somethign wrong and should be punished but its a military matter, a Politician like Clinton who has never served in the military has no place hanging these guys out to dry

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