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Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views

Well, technically, they're FEDERAL employees....and if the federal government doesn't want them, then they can be fired for absolutely no reason at all. At least on the military side.

Uh, no, that's false.

I don't know about the military, but we're not talking about the military.
 
And when a liberal president starts firing every conservative?

We haven't had a liberal president since Jimmy Carter. There's only one liberal member of Congress (Dennis Kuchinich) and one Socialist (Bernie Sanders). Everyone else is either on the right (the Democrats) or the extremist far-right (the Republicans). It seems pretty unlikely there will be a liberal president in office any time soon.
 
I know libs love to hate to love that line...but considering it took Clintons FEMA dirtector over 4 weeks to get people on the ground post Floyd and FEMA was on the ground IMMEDIATELY post Katrina in Florida, Alabama, Mississippi and MOST of Louisiana and only 3 days after the levies broke in New Orleans, the "doing a heck of a job" line was very appropriate. Oh...I know...lets not facts get in the way of silly histrionics and race baiting. Sure...those were some sad and devastating scenes we saw in New Orleans, that old 'chocolate city' abandoned by Mayor Nagin, the democrat governor of Louisiana, and their sure fire cant miss plan of "**** the citizens...I'm flyin my ass to Houston!" Sad...tragic...a city VERY unprepared. A disaster plan with 12 million dollars in fed funds that consisted of "hey...ummm...good luck y'all...you can all gather together at the SuperDome...we'll check in on you from time to time..." I mean...come on...how could that fail? And the REAL beauty...when it DOES fail (because lets be honest...the correct question is how could it NOT faily) you can have people like Jesse Jackson who INTERVIEWED Clintons FEMA director and was just FINE with that 4 week response time turn around later and call George Bush a racist for causing the Katrina debacle.

You must be kidding if you think Brown did a good job. He was in way over his head and had no busness as head of FEMA.

FEMA Director, Michael Brown, was criticized when he stated that he was not aware there were refugees in the Convention Center until September 1, three days after Hurricane Katrina hit, when Brian Williams, of NBC Nightly News, asked Mr. Brown a question about them live on the Nightly News.[36]
On September 2, CNN's Soledad O'Brien asked FEMA Director Mike Brown, "How is it possible that we're getting better info than you were getting... we were showing live pictures of the people outside the Convention Center... also we'd been reporting that officials had been telling people to go to the Convention Center... I don't understand how FEMA cannot have this information." When pressed, Brown reluctantly admitted he had learned about the starving crowds at the Convention Center from news media reports. O'Brien then said to Brown, "FEMA's been on the ground four days, going into the fifth day, why no massive air drop of food and water... in Banda Aceh, Indonesia, they got food drops two days after the tsunami."[37]

Later, Michael Brown admitted that he had virtually no experience in emergency management when he was appointed to the position by President Bush two years prior to Katrina.[39] And, in fact he had limited authority to order federal agencies into action until about 36 hours after the storm hit, when Chertoff designated him as the "principal federal official" in charge of the storm. Chertoff was the one with the authority. "[3]" President Bush recognized this and commended Michael Brown and gave him credit for the good work he had done, "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job. The FEMA Director is working 24 – they're working 24 hours a day."[39]

On September 9, Chertoff recalled Brown to Washington and removed him from the immediate supervision of the Hurricane Katrina relief effort, and replaced him with Vice Admiral Thad W. Allen, chief of staff of the United States Coast Guard.[40] Three days later, on September 12, Brown resigned his position, stating, "As I told the president, it is important that I leave now to avoid further distraction from the ongoing mission of FEMA."[40]
 
Why doesn't Newt just come out and say it: "When I'm President, all the darkies and mexicans will be the first to go."
 
Surely you have statistics to back up such an inane claim?

It's like their claim that all those politicians who can't keep their zippers closed are liberals. It's wishful thinking.
 
That dumb Gingrich. All he had to say is fire the employees who engage in fraud, waste, and abuse, and it'll most likely be a liberal.

The moronic statements by the hyper-partisan Fox Newsies never cease to amaze me.
 
Yeah, because the government contracts to Halliburton were the height of efficiency.
Are there examples of similar contracts handle more efficiently?
 
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That makes me want to vote for him even more.

As I see it the problem with Gingrich is the same problem that the USA has had & still has with Obama.

Both of these guys are loquacious, articulate.

Both are also thoroughly disingenuous, they peddle an ideal (as they think their audience wants to believe).
Both are merely modern day practitioners of the art of Snake Oil Salesmanship.

The American electorate vote as the media tell them to vote, by and large they are intellectually incapable of reasoning for themselves, they prefer for some strange reason to believe in the promises of folk who have been proven by their past actions to be liars.
 
As I see it the problem with Gingrich is the same problem that the USA has had & still has with Obama.

Both of these guys are loquacious, articulate.

Both are also thoroughly disingenuous, they peddle an ideal (as they think their audience wants to believe).
Both are merely modern day practitioners of the art of Snake Oil Salesmanship.

The American electorate vote as the media tell them to vote, by and large they are intellectually incapable of reasoning for themselves, they prefer for some strange reason to believe in the promises of folk who have been proven by their past actions to be liars.

What lies by Obama are you thinking of exactly?
 
The title of this thread is 100% false.

"Liberal" isn't a party affliliation. Republicans and Democrats can fire all the "liberals," "progressives," "conservatives," and "libertarians" they want to.

Democrats fire conservatives. Republicans fire liberals. THAT IS SUPPOSE TO HAPPEN.

To claim that is wrong is to declare that democracy is illegal and elections are pointless as it is administrative government that runs 80% of government. Name any candidate challenging the incumbent that vowed to make no changes in government staffing? That only never happens, it would be absurd.

As the election gets closer, absurd partisanship claims attempting to create gaffs, scandals and fear-factors will increasingly comes and increasingly annoying and pointless.
 
Why doesn't Newt just come out and say it: "When I'm President, all the darkies and mexicans will be the first to go."

What a disgustingly racist message on too many levels to list. I'm confident neither political party would want you as their spokesperson. Stormfront might be interested in someone who makes such statements.
 
The title of this thread is 100% false.

"Liberal" isn't a party affliliation. Republicans and Democrats can fire all the "liberals," "progressives," "conservatives," and "libertarians" they want to.

Democrats fire conservatives. Republicans fire liberals. THAT IS SUPPOSE TO HAPPEN.

It is illegal to fire a civil service employee (as opposed to a political appointed, obviously) for "political affiliation." That would suggest that either ideology or party would be covered.
 
What a disgustingly racist message on too many levels to list. I'm confident neither political party would want you as their spokesperson. Stormfront might be interested in someone who makes such statements.

I'm not sure you followed. I was putting over-the-top words in Newt's mouth (note the quotation marks) implying those were the secret desires he longs to just come out and say.

Think, an SLN sketch where a politician let's slip what he really thinks.
 
We haven't had a liberal president since Jimmy Carter. There's only one liberal member of Congress (Dennis Kuchinich) and one Socialist (Bernie Sanders). Everyone else is either on the right (the Democrats) or the extremist far-right (the Republicans). It seems pretty unlikely there will be a liberal president in office any time soon.

I never understood this. Did this mean that only a number of years ago, those Democrats who identified with the New Deal and a large chunk (maybe not all) of the Great Society programs, and considered themselves liberals, were not liberals after all? To me, this is a disingenuous attempt to strike back at the exaggeration of conservatives regarding American liberalism. It's just as silly as watching conservatives dismiss the contributions of other conservatives from the past 40 years because now they think "they were not conservatives."
 
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I never understood this. Did this mean that only a number of years ago, those Democrats who identified with the New Deal and a large chunk (maybe not all) of the Great Society programs, and considered themselves liberals, were not liberals after all? To me, this is a disingenuous attempt to strike back at the exaggeration of conservatives regarding American liberalism. It's just as silly as watching conservatives dismiss the contributions of other conservatives from the past 40 years because now they think "they were not conservatives."

The New Deal was before Jimmy Carter.
 
You had a different point than I understood then.

One of political identity. A suggestion that, as Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said, (paraphrase), "The best indicator for a man's politics is when he was born." The New Deal coalition lasted through the 60s, but as you probably already know, the Great Society programs have also created their own identity. Having people that were in support of those or many programs (or perhaps foreign affairs of the party during that time, but I'm thinking of domestic policy) and platform outlook led them to believe they were liberals.
 
I'm not sure you followed. I was putting over-the-top words in Newt's mouth (note the quotation marks) implying those were the secret desires he longs to just come out and say.

Think, an SLN sketch where a politician let's slip what he really thinks.

Sorry about misreading you. Satire is often missed on forums.
 
It is illegal to fire a civil service employee (as opposed to a political appointed, obviously) for "political affiliation." That would suggest that either ideology or party would be covered.

Don't think so. An affiliation is an official or formal connection. While usually a liberal or conservative is also a member of the Democrat or Republican Party there is no gaurantee that is the case. Ideology and affiliation are not the same.
 
Why doesn't Newt just come out and say it: "When I'm President, all the darkies and mexicans will be the first to go."
Interesting that you had no problem letting a derogatory term for blacks fly free but managed to keep the respect for the 'Mexicans'...
 
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