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    Re: Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What a disgustingly racist message on too many levels to list. I'm confident neither political party would want you as their spokesperson. Stormfront might be interested in someone who makes such statements.
    I'm not sure you followed. I was putting over-the-top words in Newt's mouth (note the quotation marks) implying those were the secret desires he longs to just come out and say.

    Think, an SLN sketch where a politician let's slip what he really thinks.

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    Re: Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Think, an SLN sketch where a politician let's slip what he really thinks.
    http://www.hulu.com/watch/272579/sat...the-honest-man
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    Re: Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    We haven't had a liberal president since Jimmy Carter. There's only one liberal member of Congress (Dennis Kuchinich) and one Socialist (Bernie Sanders). Everyone else is either on the right (the Democrats) or the extremist far-right (the Republicans). It seems pretty unlikely there will be a liberal president in office any time soon.
    I never understood this. Did this mean that only a number of years ago, those Democrats who identified with the New Deal and a large chunk (maybe not all) of the Great Society programs, and considered themselves liberals, were not liberals after all? To me, this is a disingenuous attempt to strike back at the exaggeration of conservatives regarding American liberalism. It's just as silly as watching conservatives dismiss the contributions of other conservatives from the past 40 years because now they think "they were not conservatives."
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    Re: Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views

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    I never understood this. Did this mean that only a number of years ago, those Democrats who identified with the New Deal and a large chunk (maybe not all) of the Great Society programs, and considered themselves liberals, were not liberals after all? To me, this is a disingenuous attempt to strike back at the exaggeration of conservatives regarding American liberalism. It's just as silly as watching conservatives dismiss the contributions of other conservatives from the past 40 years because now they think "they were not conservatives."
    The New Deal was before Jimmy Carter.
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    Re: Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The New Deal was before Jimmy Carter.
    I am well aware of that, misterman. So were the Great Society programs.
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    Re: Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I am well aware of that, misterman. So were the Great Society programs.
    You had a different point than I understood then.
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    Re: Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You had a different point than I understood then.
    One of political identity. A suggestion that, as Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said, (paraphrase), "The best indicator for a man's politics is when he was born." The New Deal coalition lasted through the 60s, but as you probably already know, the Great Society programs have also created their own identity. Having people that were in support of those or many programs (or perhaps foreign affairs of the party during that time, but I'm thinking of domestic policy) and platform outlook led them to believe they were liberals.
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    Re: Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I'm not sure you followed. I was putting over-the-top words in Newt's mouth (note the quotation marks) implying those were the secret desires he longs to just come out and say.

    Think, an SLN sketch where a politician let's slip what he really thinks.
    Sorry about misreading you. Satire is often missed on forums.

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    Re: Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It is illegal to fire a civil service employee (as opposed to a political appointed, obviously) for "political affiliation." That would suggest that either ideology or party would be covered.
    Don't think so. An affiliation is an official or formal connection. While usually a liberal or conservative is also a member of the Democrat or Republican Party there is no gaurantee that is the case. Ideology and affiliation are not the same.

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    Re: Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Why doesn't Newt just come out and say it: "When I'm President, all the darkies and mexicans will be the first to go."
    Interesting that you had no problem letting a derogatory term for blacks fly free but managed to keep the respect for the 'Mexicans'...

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