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U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

apdst said:
I never said you can't. I've only said that your criticisms are uninformed.
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Now to handle this specific backtracking comment. Do you think that when you spout off about Obama, your criticisms are uninformed because you aren't the president?

*Side Note: I noticed MaggieD like this post. I'll remember that you agree with a post that calls the opinions of non-military people uninformed about the military when you make comments about education.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Now to handle this specific backtracking comment. Do you think that when you spout off about Obama, your criticisms are uninformed because you aren't the president?

*Side Note: I noticed MaggieD like this post. I'll remember that you agree with a post that calls the opinions of non-military people uninformed about the military when you make comments about education.
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S'matter? Our education debates gotcha' down? Second time this thread you've referenced that...are you keeping notes?
 
MaggieD said:
S'matter? Our education debates gotcha' down? Second time this thread you've referenced that...are you keeping notes?
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Nope and if you think you're the only person I've called out, you're wrong. I'm just dumbfounded by the amount of unapologetic hypocrisy being displayed in this thread. We have people who take every opportunity to tell Obama how to do his job, to tell teachers how to do their jobs, to tell women how to make decisions about abortion and so on, but now all of sudden all of these people, including you, think that people can't have 'informed' opinions about things that the have not directly experienced. I'm not going to forget this.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Nope and if you think you're the only person I've called out, you're wrong. I'm just dumbfounded by the amount of unapologetic hypocrisy being displayed in this thread. We have people who take every opportunity to tell Obama how to do his job, to tell teachers how to do their jobs, to tell women how to make decisions about abortion and so on, but now all of sudden all of these people, including you, think that people can't have 'informed' opinions about things that the have not directly experienced. I'm not going to forget this.
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Glad you won't, PlayDrive. It'll make for some lively debate. You take this much too seriously. If you haven't hidden in a jungle in fear of your life...driven a humvee down a street afraid that the bump in the road ahead is a land mine...watched your comrades get blown apart...or watched a truck drive up to a checkpoint and seen the suicide bomber/driver with kids in the back take out five of your friends then you have no business judging some young kids' assinine behavior and calling it atrocious.... Or worse yet, war crimes.
 
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MaggieD said:
Glad you won't, PlayDrive. It'll make for some lively debate. You take this much too seriously. If you haven't hidden in a jungle in fear of your life...driven a humvee down a street afraid that the bump in the road ahead is a land mine...watched your comrades get blown apart...or watched a truck drive up to a checkpoint and seen the suicide bomber/driver with kids in the back take out five of your friends then you have no business judging some young kids' assinine behavior and calling it atrocious.... Or worse yet, war crimes.
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I didn't call anybody's behavior atrocious. So far, in our interactions, I'm the only one who has actually addressed what the other person has said. Moreover, I consider hypocrisy something worth mentioning when it undermines the argument someone is trying to make. If you consider calling attention to this "taking this much too seriously", then I suppose we have very different opinions on what "debate" entails.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
I didn't call anybody's behavior atrocious. So far, in our interactions, I'm the only one who has actually addressed what the other person has said. Moreover, I consider hypocrisy something worth mentioning when it undermines the argument someone is trying to make. If you consider calling attention to this "taking this much too seriously", then I suppose we have very different opinions on what "debate" entails.
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Nothing I have said in this thread is hypocritical. You have a habit of pulling that card and others...it's annoying -- taking a topic off point and concentrating on the poster. I wish you would stop it.
 
MaggieD said:
Nothing I have said in this thread is hypocritical. You have a habit of pulling that card and others...it's annoying -- taking a topic off point and concentrating on the poster. I wish you would stop it.
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The only thing I have a habit of doing is pointing things out that you'd rather I gloss over. Besides, you take this much too seriously.
 
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MaggieD said:
Nothing I have said in this thread is hypocritical. You have a habit of pulling that card and others...it's annoying -- taking a topic off point and concentrating on the poster. I wish you would stop it.
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MaggieD, you are channelling people to think existentially down perscribed avenues of theory and theology, not allowing them to have exponential thoughts about all things compounding into one moment.

Now since everybody does it may justify it not being hypocritical, doesn't change the fact every character in humanity became one serving a social identity as society's child not ancestry's.

Now this is what makes the battlefield of ideas spill over into battlegrounds of sacrificed lifetimes honoring ideology of maybe rather than striving to survive as designed by this sole moment's compounding results always living in this forever present now result of balances added together so far.

Remember I am saying this not against you or anyone else as I am describving how everyone is acting the same way relative to their own adopted thinking being recited as edcuated to believe reality is all a character can own.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
That's weird because you responded to me when I made this comment:



in response to Captain America who claimed that those not in the military should not "shoot off at their pie hole" (aka criticize the military) when it comes to military concerns. You responded that the president is different because he works for you meaning that you did not object to the topic of conversation - that non-military people can't criticize the military.

In either case, you're still wrong about the military and the President being different in regards to working for the public. Both are paid by the public. Both work for it.
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You're just raw because people are bad-mouthing Obama and taking this oppurtunity to get some payback.
 
OneMale said:
MaggieD, you are channelling people to think existentially down perscribed avenues of theory and theology, not allowing them to have exponential thoughts about all things compounding into one moment.

Now since everybody does it may justify it not being hypocritical, doesn't change the fact every character in humanity became one serving a social identity as society's child not ancestry's.
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Well, OneMale, if I understand you correctly, you disagree with me. I'll have to think about this statement: "...not allowing them to have exponential thoughts..." Perhaps you are right.

I "liked" your post 'cause I think you're a sweetie pie. ;)
 
MaggieD said:
Well, OneMale, if I understand you correctly, you disagree with me. I'll have to think about this statement: "...not allowing them to have exponential thoughts..." Perhaps you are right.

I "liked" your post 'cause I think you're a sweetie pie. ;)
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I disagree with who you believe you are socially not what you are in gender. there is that fine line between real humans and ity of humanity's adopted ideologies.

I am a sweetie more than a sour note. But real understanding is always a bitter pill to characters of reality never allowed to drift off topic or deeper than defined issues of subjective theory and theology.
 
The funniest part about the handwringing over this, is that it's coming from the same folks that swore up-n-down that our soldiers are very professional, mature and very capable of handling serving with openly gay soldiers.

Singing a different tune, now. :lamo
 
Enola said:
What they did was wrong. Our government agrees it was wrong. Our government heads agree it was wrong. Most people think it was wrong. Those who did it will be punished in some form or another. Those men do not represent the USA or the military of the USA.

So with that said, the president of Afghanistan can shut his pie hole and quit waving his fists. WE KNOW ALREADY. It was WRONG. It's being taken care of! So STFU and pry the log out of your eye while whining about the stick in ours, ok? SHEESH.
Oh, and while you are stomping your feet, Mr. Afghan Prez, do try to keep YOUR denizens under control the next time they decide to behead someone and show it on tv, m'kay?

Arrrrgggg
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This guy with the piehole you want shut is the guy we enabled to get in office, continue to prop up, and plan to hand over the security of our efforts, sacrifice and expense for the last decade.

US foreign policy is a weird thing, no?
 
Catawba said:
This guy with the piehole you want shut is the guy we enabled to get in office, continue to prop up, and plan to hand over the security of our efforts, sacrifice and expense for the last decade.

US foreign policy is a weird thing, no?
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Yup. It is a weird thing. And while Mr. Piehole is whining and beating the dead horse over and over again, the situation is being looked in to on THIS end. On top of that, Mr. Piehole has his mitts aimed up waiting for money from us, and conveniently didn't even know Bin Laden was what....across the street?....from their military outpost or some such. Yet, he whines and complains and grunts and groans about some bad apple recruits that are stupid yet turns a blind eye to the atrocities committed daily in his country.
He just needs to STFU and let our government deal with the situation. The continual fist waving is getting old.

As I said...it's being dealt with. Meanwhile, he keeps screeching about it. Enough already.
 
Enola said:
Yup. It is a weird thing. And while Mr. Piehole is whining and beating the dead horse over and over again, the situation is being looked in to on THIS end. On top of that, Mr. Piehole has his mitts aimed up waiting for money from us, and conveniently didn't even know Bin Laden was what....across the street?....from their military outpost or some such. Yet, he whines and complains and grunts and groans about some bad apple recruits that are stupid yet turns a blind eye to the atrocities committed daily in his country.
He just needs to STFU and let our government deal with the situation. The continual fist waving is getting old.

As I said...it's being dealt with. Meanwhile, he keeps screeching about it. Enough already.
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And why is it again that we continue to spend money and lives to prop Mr. Piehole up? And why is we plan to turn security of the country over to Mr Piehole?
 
Catawba said:
And why is it again that we continue to spend money and lives to prop Mr. Piehole up? And why is we plan to turn security of the country over to Mr Piehole?
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Because some of the PTB in the USA had their cheese slide off their crackers?
 
Bodhisattva said:
In the scope of war I could care less except for the image that it gives the United States... We are fighting scum that decapitate people and we get in a hissy fit about peeing on some dead bodies.
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This is pretty much the deal. Sure, the incident is bad form and I hope the guys get their proper punishment, But let's not get all "the US is like the Taliban". For one, when we discover such things, we prosecute them. Every society has criminals, including the military. For two, it's pissing on someone's grave - let's not lose our heads over it.

Big deal. They'll get punished.
 
megaprogman said:
I wonder what Duke Nukem would have to say about this.
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My guess would be, "It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum. And I'm all out of gum."

(Yes, this is relevant to the thread.)
 
ecofarm said:
Big deal. They'll get punished.
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After all, those pesky extremists hate us for our freedoms and way of life and has nothing to do with our actions in their backyard.
 
apdst said:
The funniest part about the handwringing over this, is that it's coming from the same folks that swore up-n-down that our soldiers are very professional, mature and very capable of handling serving with openly gay soldiers.

Singing a different tune, now. :lamo
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And as we all know there are bad apples in every bunch. As a whole, our military IS very professional, mature, and very capable of handling serving with openly gay soldiers. Just like our military, as a whole, can refrain from pissing on dead bodies.
 
TheNextEra said:
And as we all know there are bad apples in every bunch. As a whole, our military IS very professional, mature, and very capable of handling serving with openly gay soldiers. Just like our military, as a whole, can refrain from pissing on dead bodies.
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But, it's ok to disembowl them with lethal anti-personel weapons? These Marines are scout snipers. They're have one mission and one mission only and that is to kill the enemy, with one shot, center mass. Not wound, scare, intimidate, but kill. Can you relate to that? Weren't you a cook, or something in the service?

Which makes me wonder why pissing on the blown apart bodies is such big deal.
 
apdst said:
But, it's ok to disembowl them with lethal anti-personel weapons? These Marines are scout snipers. They're have one mission and one mission only and that is to kill the enemy, with one shot, center mass. Not wound, scare, intimidate, but kill. Can you relate to that? Weren't you a cook, or something in the service?

Which makes me wonder why pissing on the blown apart bodies is such big deal.
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You'll have to show me where their mission is to piss on the dead bodies after they kill them. As far as saying I was a cook, that's laughable and clearly you don't know me one iota.
 
TheNextEra said:
You'll have to show me where their mission is to piss on the dead bodies after they kill them. As far as saying I was a cook, that's laughable and clearly you don't know me one iota.
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Allow me to refresh your memory of the infantry's mission. They probably didn't teach it at Fort Dix.

The mission of the infantry is to close with the enemy by means of fire and maneuver to defeat or capture him, or to repel his assault by fire, close combat, and counterattack.
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If pissing on a few stiffs can be a sub-task of that overall mission, then I'm not having a problem with it. I'm sure you're very aware that it's important to destroy enemy morale. Yes?
 
apdst said:
The funniest part about the handwringing over this, is that it's coming from the same folks that swore up-n-down that our soldiers are very professional, mature and very capable of handling serving with openly gay soldiers.

Singing a different tune, now. :lamo
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I'm sorry, but many of the people who were against the repeal of DADT are from the same exact crowd.
 
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