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U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

misterman said:
You're the one calling names all over the place here, son. Grow up.
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First I'm an ass... now I'm "son". :lamo


So you have nothing to say about the OP subject matter or ... ?
 
Ockham said:
I don't want anything except for people who don't have a frame of reference to realize they have no idea what they're talking about, nor any experience to know what it's like.
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So by your logic, every jury would have to be direct witnesses of a crime to be worthy of judging whether a crime was committed.

You're outrage was obvious by the way... denying it now is a little... weak. But whatever makes your boat float!
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Nope, not in the least bit outraged. Entertained is a more appropriate word.
 
misterman said:
Yep - that's when it's even more important to act like adults.

This incident was not only dishonorable, it will get more American soldiers and possibly civilians killed.
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Honestly, I am not interested in making a moral judgement of the value of soldiers vs afghanis, because I will side our guys. But there are huge practical concerns about such activities and what it does for the overall US strategy. Especially since part of the strategy is a humanitarian mission as well as a propaganda one.
 
misterman said:
You're the one calling names all over the place here, son. Grow up.
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Wow, this thread is getting out of control. Before long momma jokes and double dog dares will make appearances, phrases such as uh huh and nuh huh will commence, and then we'll really see the ultimate where someone will post a picture of themself sucking their thumb. I'm done on here, you guys have fun.
 
megaprogman said:
Honestly, I am not interested in making a moral judgement of the value of soldiers vs afghanis, because I will side our guys.
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So our guys can do no wrong?
 
CriticalThought said:
So by your logic, every jury would have to be direct witnesses of a crime to be worthy of judging whether a crime was committed.
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I think I already responded to that in the quote which you quoted. :shrug:

CriticalThought said:
Nope, not in the least bit outraged. Entertained is a more appropriate word.
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You sure do post passionately on a subject you care little about for entertainment. You know I'm not buying it for a minute but like I already said... what floats your boat.
 
misterman said:
So our guys can do no wrong?
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Obviously they did something wrong, but, so has both sides and overall I consider US behaviors and activities, on the whole, to be more moral and overall more acceptable to what I consider moral and civilized behavior.
 
MarineTpartier said:
Wow, this thread is getting out of control. Before long momma jokes and double dog dares will make appearances, phrases such as uh huh and nuh huh will commence, and then we'll really see the ultimate where someone will post a picture of themself sucking their thumb. I'm done on here, you guys have fun.
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Good. Get the hell out. Leave the Marine Corps too if you no longer have any honor left.
 
Ockham said:
I think I already responded to that in the quote which you quoted. :shrug:
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So...you do think every jury would have to be direct witnesses of a crime to be worthy of judging whether a crime was committed?

You sure do post passionately on a subject you care little about for entertainment. You know I'm not buying it for a minute but like I already said... what floats your boat.
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This is amusing as hell. I love watching people rationalize. If I ever debate you in a similar topic in the future, your own rationalizations are going to come back to haunt you. I guarantee it.
 
misterman said:
That's what they say about us now. Congratulations. You lowered use to their level and probably caused more Americans to die.
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No it will be the PC MSM and the PC politicians that will cause the death of American military.....as it has in the recent past.

I am a Marine. My idea of a well planned and executed operation is: All the enemy dead, wounded, captured or running for home. As for my Marines....not so much as a paper cut.

The American taxpayers give their hard earned money for a Marine Corps to conduct military operations as close to clubbing baby seals as is humanly possible. If you have a problem with that, then you have never been in the Marines or combat.....so your opinion means less than nothing to me.
 
a777pilot said:
No it will be the PC MSM and the PC politicians that will cause the death of American military.....as it has in the recent past.

I am a Marine. My idea of a well planned and executed operation is: All the enemy dead, wounded, captured or running for home. As for my Marines....not so much as a paper cut.

The American taxpayers give their hard earned money for a Marine Corps to conduct military operations as close to clubbing baby seals as is humanly possible. If you have a problem with that, then you have never been in the Marines or combat.....so your opinion means less than nothing to me.
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So, like adpst, you are going with the "I am special" self righteousness route as your argument?
 
a777pilot said:
No it will be the PC MSM and the PC politicians that will cause the death of American military.....as it has in the recent past.

I am a Marine. My idea of a well planned and executed operation is: All the enemy dead, wounded, captured or running for home. As for my Marines....not so much as a paper cut.

The American taxpayers give their hard earned money for a Marine Corps to conduct military operations as close to clubbing baby seals as is humanly possible. If you have a problem with that, then you have never been in the Marines or combat.....so your opinion means less than nothing to me.
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So basically...Marines are only accountable to Marines?
 
This incident is a very minor incident in the history of the Marine Corps and the US military.

The Marine Corps will investigate and take what action they deem appropriate. I have faith in the Marine Corps to do the right thing.


...'nuff said.
 
CriticalThought said:
So...you do think every jury would have to be direct witnesses of a crime to be worthy of judging whether a crime was committed?
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I'm not a lawyer so I have no clue as to what a jury would have to do. First, USMCJ doesn't operate the same way as civilian justice, so the path your going down is way off base.

CriticalThought said:
This is amusing as hell.
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So you keep saying... I'm having a good time too.

CriticalThought said:
I love watching people rationalize. If I ever debate you in a similar topic in the future, your own rationalizations are going to come back to haunt you. I guarantee it.
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What you think my view is going to change? Or that I'll be sorry I gave the soldier the benefit of the doubt? I assure you, I won't. Bring it up 6 months from now and I'll say the same thing... if the roles were reversed and a Taliban pissed on a dead Marine... they've already done much worse than that - much worse. So what exactly am I gong to be haunted by.... :coffeepap:
 
misterman said:
Good. Get the hell out. Leave the Marine Corps too if you no longer have any honor left.
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This further solidifies my point about your childish ways. You're childish in all threads you post in. You can't be more than 20 years old.
 
a777pilot said:
No it will be the PC MSM and the PC politicians that will cause the death of American military.....as it has in the recent past.
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Bull****. Don't blame this on the messenger.

I am a Marine. My idea of a well planned and executed operation is: All the enemy dead, wounded, captured or running for home. As for my Marines....not so much as a paper cut.
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That's fine. You don't piss on the dead, do you?

The American taxpayers give their hard earned money for a Marine Corps to conduct military operations as close to clubbing baby seals as is humanly possible. If you have a problem with that, then you have never been in the Marines or combat.....so your opinion means less than nothing to me.
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Don't pull that bull**** with me either.

You are not hired to do dishonorable things, and if you had a brain, you'd realized that this will kill more Marines. They're a bigger target now. Part of your mission is to not make people hate you even more. That's as much a part of your duty and your job as killing the enemy.

What's next - justifying deliberately killing civilian children? How low will you go, Marine?
 
MarineTpartier said:
This further solidifies my point about your childish ways. You're childish in all threads you post in. You can't be more than 20 years old.
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What's childish is justifying or rationalizing a dishonorable act. Adults don't do such things, nor do they excuse them.
 
neocon ass kissers

stop getting your ideas from chuck norris and ted nugent

what is this world net daily?
 
misterman said:
Don't pull that bull**** with me either.

You are not hired to do dishonorable things, and if you had a brain, you'd realized that this will kill more Marines. They're a bigger target now. Part of your mission is to not make people hate you even more. That's as much a part of your duty and your job as killing the enemy.
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Hired? News flash: The United State military is an ALL VOLUNTEER military. :lamo

misterman said:
What's next - justifying deliberately killing civilian children? How low will you go, Marine?
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Ahh... hearkening back to the 1960's era of "baby killer". Way to go there misterman....
 
Ockham said:
I'm not a lawyer so I have no clue as to what a jury would have to do. First, USMCJ doesn't operate the same way as civilian justice, so the path your going down is way off base.
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Let me see...by your logic only a bunch of bankers would be worthy of serving as jurors on a trial of a banker who allegedly committed fraud. Or only a bunch of women who experience domestic abuse would be worthy of serving as jurors in a case involving a battered woman. I find your logic quite interesting.

So you keep saying... I'm having a good time too.
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Oh good. I thought you were just rationalizing your ass off.

What you think my view is going to change? Or that I'll be sorry I gave the soldier the benefit of the doubt? I assure you, I won't. Bring it up 6 months from now and I'll say the same thing... if the roles were reversed and a Taliban pissed on a dead Marine... they've already done much worse than that - much worse. So what exactly am I gong to be haunted by.... :coffeepap:
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Poor logic.
 
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