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U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

Catawba said:
You dishonor your fellow marines and yourself with that statement.
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The way I see it, we either want a professional army or one that thinks in terms such as personal honor and what not. The latter is what barbarians do.
 
MarineTpartier said:
Dude, you're on here spouting this crap too! This is the second thread I've seen you doing this on. Wow. Is this Occupy Debate or what? The question is, are you a card carrying, t shirt wearing, proud member of the 99%?
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For those that do math, we are both part of the 99%. I suppose you are going to defend people who piss on the dead???
 
Ockham said:
It would certainly have helped understand it, yes. I don't expect to understand or empathize - you have no background to even start to comprehend what they do, how they think, how they live when they're there. I don't have the background in it either - though I do sympathize.
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ROFL! This gets better and better.

You sympathize with people misbehaving because of the stressful circumstances they chose to put themselves through?
 
Catawba said:
For those that do math, we are both part of the 99%. I suppose you are going to defend people who piss on the dead???
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I've already defended them. I'm not doing it again for you. BTW, in a socialist gov't there is a 1% and a 99%. Here, we're all Americans who are free to cast our lot where ever we want. Just because you choose to percentalize (is that a word) yourself doesn't mean we all have to do it.
 
Okay, the act was deplorable. It will cause immeasurable damage in diplomatic circles. It could be used as a catalyst propaganda piece that spawns the next round of Muslim suicidal manics.

I join the majority of right-minded people denouncing such a dispicable display. These marine's should, and shall, get their due. Not only did they piss on some dead Taliban dude, they pissed on the shiny spotless shield representing the United States Marines. Our nation's finest. I can guarantee you the USMC knows how to handle these guys.

But when justice doles out their due, I do hope that the powers that be keeps in mind the following:

1. Where was all this Islamic outrage when our soldiers were drug through the streets of Mogadishu?
2. What happened to the people who hung the burning American corpses from the bridge trusses? To what "Full Extent of the Law" were the people dancing under their dead bodies subjected to? What figure of state came, hat in hand, to apologize to all parties concerned, for those actions?

I could go on. You get my drift.

We send our youngest of men (and women) to a very dark place, with very dark people, to do a very dark job. They, themselves, can go to very dark places just to keep their head in to the game. Heck, there are probably a zillion pictures and videos just like that one out there hidden in some foot lockers.

It's The Suck. I can understand the warped psyche of putting ones self into a frame of mind that NOTHING could be worse than life in The Suck. Totally not thinking about any ramifications, or anything else, for that matter, beyond The Suck. Did I hear they were snipers? If so, dehumanizing the enemy probably is done as a defense mechanism or a mind ploy to help them cope with the psychological woes that go with the job.

I am not, in no way, defending their actions. I am simply stating that I HOPE whoever hands them down their spankings keeps the things I mentioned, in mind.

"I regret that I have only one bladder to give my country."
 
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CriticalThought said:
ROFL! This gets better and better.

You sympathize with people misbehaving because of the stressful circumstances they chose to put themselves through?
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I do. You'd rather I condemn them based on a YouTube video. Well - like I said you're not equipped to understand, which is why you have all the faux outrage.
 
Catawba said:
Not when you defend pissing on the dead, "bro."
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I didn't know you held dead terrorists in such a high regard Catawba. Good to know.
 
megaprogman said:
The way I see it, we either want a professional army or one that thinks in terms such as personal honor and what not. The latter is what barbarians do.
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Exactly, it further breaks down the distinction between us and terrorists.
 
Captain America said:
1. Where was all this Islamic outrage when our soldiers were drug through the streets of Mogadishu?
2. What happened to the people who hung the burning American corpses from the bridge trusses? What figure of state came, hat in hand, to apologize to all parties concerned, for those actions?

I could go on.
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Don't. You only make things worse.

Just say it was wrong, and move on.
 
Captain America said:
Okay, the act was deplorable. It will cause immeasurable damage in diplomatic circles. It could be a catalyst propaganda that spawns the next round or suicidal manics.

I join the majority of right-minded people denouncing such a dispicable display. These marine's should, and shall, get their due. Not only did they piss on some dead Taliban dude, they pissed on the shiny spotless shield representing the United States Marines. Our nation's finest. I can guarantee you the USMC knows how to handle these guys.

But when justice doles out their due, I do hope it keeps in mind the following:
1. Where was all this Islamic outrage when our soldiers were drug through the streets of Mogadishu?
2. What happened to the people who hung the burning American corpses from the bridge trusses? What figure of state came, hat in hand, to apologize to all parties concerned, for those actions?

I could go on.

We send our youngest of men (and women) to a very dark place, with very dark people, to do a very dark job. They, themselves, can go to very dark places just to keep their head in to the game. Heck, there are probably a zillion pictures and videos just like that one out there hidden in some foot lockers.

It's The Suck. I can understand the warped psyche of putting ones self into a frame of mind that NOTHING could be worse than life in the suck. Totally not thinking about any ramifications, or anything else, for that matter, beyond The Suck. Did I hear they were snipers? If so, dehumanizing the enemy probably is done as a defense mechanism or a mind ploy to help them cope with the psychological woes that go with the job.

I am not, in no way, defending their actions. I am simply stating that I HOPE whoever hands them down their spankings keeps the things I mentioned, in mind.

"I regret that I have only one bladder to give my country."
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That was good! Thanks for being both serious and bringing a little levity to this conversation. Maybe it's because I served that this doesn't get under my skin as much as those who have NO CLUE (*ahem*) but the "one bladder for my country" was very good! :thumbs:
 
a777pilot said:
I don't care what they no with the dead enemy. Feed them to the pigs for all I care. This is not an honorable enemy. It was stupid to tape it.
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That's what they say about us now. Congratulations. You lowered use to their level and probably caused more Americans to die.
 
misterman said:
That's what they say about us now. Congratulations. You lowered use to their level and probably caused more Americans to die.
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Who's "they"?
 
Ockham said:
I do. You'd rather I condemn them based on a YouTube video. Well - like I said you're not equipped to understand, which is why you have all the faux outrage.
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I'm not outraged in the least. I just find this whole situation funny as hell. You want me and other people who would disprove of this behavior to be outraged so that you can feel justified in being outraged about people being outraged.

The truth is you are embarrassed by what these guys did.
 
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I think the most disappointing thing about this thread is that it is somehow considered wrong to expect people to act like adults, because its "difficult" or "there is a war" or whatever.
 
MarineTpartier said:
I've already defended them. I'm not doing it again for you. BTW, in a socialist gov't there is a 1% and a 99%. Here, we're all Americans who are free to cast our lot where ever we want. Just because you choose to percentalize (is that a word) yourself doesn't mean we all have to do it.
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You need to convince the people that used to be the middle class and our seniors, as their vote will determine our next leader.
 
Ockham said:
Other than name calling - any other personal insights you'd like to share or... ?
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You're the one calling names all over the place here, son. Grow up.
 
CriticalThought said:
I'm not outraged in the least. I just find this whole situation funny as hell.
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Good. So do I.

CriticalThought said:
You want me and other people who would disprove of this behavior to be outraged so that you can feel justified in being outraged about people being outraged.
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I don't want anything except for people who don't have a frame of reference to realize they have no idea what they're talking about, nor any experience to know what it's like. You're outrage was obvious by the way... denying it now is a little... weak. But whatever makes your boat float!
 
megaprogman said:
I think the most disappointing thing about this thread is that it is somehow considered wrong to expect people to act like adults, because its "difficult" or "there is a war" or whatever.
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Yep - that's when it's even more important to act like adults.

This incident was not only dishonorable, it will get more American soldiers and possibly civilians killed.
 
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